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Thursday, March 27, 2014

9:00 a.m. Workshop Session


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09:06:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: City Council is called to order.

09:06:04 The chair yields to Mr. Mike Suarez.

09:06:09 What a group we have here.

09:06:12 Look at that, Mr. Suarez.

09:06:13 Isn't that nice?

09:06:15 >>MIKE SUAREZ: It's not many times we get people that are

09:06:18 quiet out there.

09:06:19 Good morning, everyone.

09:06:20 It's my pleasure to introduce our invocation speaker today.

09:06:23 His name is Garrett fish.

09:06:27 Come on up to the microphone.

09:06:29 He's a middle Madonna student and has been there since

09:06:32 second grade.

09:06:34 He enjoys all kinds of out door activity.

09:06:36 And when he's not making jokes, no time to make jokes today

09:06:40 here, okay?

09:06:41 He was selected by his religion teacher Mrs. Lou Ann Jones

09:06:45 because of his strong faith to command the attention of his

09:06:48 classmates.

09:06:49 Ms. Lynn Jones is a Madonna graduate also.

09:06:54 She moved back to Tampa, returned to teach in the school

09:06:57 alongside some of her former teachers.

09:07:00 I won't mention any names.

09:07:02 And Garrett and Villa Madonna is here as part of their

09:07:13 visit, and will visit with the mayor later on and the police

09:07:17 of chief.

09:07:18 Please stand for the invocation and remain standing for the

09:07:22 pledge of allegiance.

09:07:23 >> Dear God, thank you for bringing us here today safely.

09:07:26 We ask for everybody to be home safely and for everybody to

09:07:30 have the wisdom to be able to get through this day.

09:07:33 We ask for your grace in your hands to help us through this

09:07:38 day.

09:07:38 Amen.

09:07:39 (Pledge of Allegiance)

09:07:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Is that Ms. Jones?

09:08:05 Maybe before we start, would you come to the mike?

09:08:07 I haven't said this to anyone in 16 years.

09:08:10 Please state your name for the record.

09:08:12 >> Stephani Vagas Estinova.

09:08:22 >> Her father was the catcher of the all-star team in 1950,

09:08:26 and he was the guy that taught me in Cuba, and he was a

09:08:35 great ball player at Jefferson and later on in life and he

09:08:37 was a very outstanding man, he and your mother, both -- your

09:08:41 mother, not his, and the only thing I regret is that he did

09:08:47 this instead of doing this.

09:08:49 And that means fastball and this means curve ball.

09:08:55 He called for a fast ball which I never had, and it wasn't

09:08:58 his fault because he was taking the signs from the bench and

09:09:02 I threw it.

09:09:02 And that was a mistake. They are still for the ball.

09:09:06 And that was many years ago.

09:09:08 But an outstanding young lady.

09:09:12 I have known her since she was a little girl.

09:09:15 And God bless you for what you do at the school.

09:09:17 >> Thank you.

09:09:19 I appreciate the young part.

09:09:20 Thank you.

09:09:21 [ Laughter ]

09:09:25 >>MIKE SUAREZ: She told me something that I didn't even

09:09:27 know.

09:09:28 She has two daughters and one of them is named Miranda.

09:09:31 And I did not know who she named Miranda after.

09:09:34 Did you not tell me that will she was named after Charlie?

09:09:39 >> Yes.

09:09:43 I figured nobody should be called Vargas so my daughter is

09:09:49 Miranda.

09:09:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Well, Vargas is a beautiful name.

09:09:59 Thank you for naming her Miranda.

09:10:01 And both your mother and father are very intelligent people

09:10:08 and we all called up in Y-bore city.

09:10:12 Really it's Ybor City but it's Y-bore.

09:10:18 That's why we are confused.

09:10:19 Thank you very much.

09:10:20 We go to item number 1.

09:10:24 Roll call.

09:10:25 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Here.

09:10:29 >>FRANK REDDICK: Heremonth.

09:10:35 >>MARY MULHERN: Here.

09:10:36 >>HARRY COHEN: Here.

09:10:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Here.

09:10:41 The police chief for another year.

09:10:44 A month times 12.

09:10:45 >>FRANK REDDICK: Good morning, council.

09:10:58 It's my pleasure to stand here and present this commendation

09:11:01 to the Officer of the Month for the March 2014.

09:11:06 I am just going to call him Officer Craig and let the chief

09:11:10 pronounce that.

09:11:12 So, Chief.

09:11:13 >> CHIEF JANE CASTOR: I'm very honored to bring before you

09:11:19 today one of Tampa's finest, Craig Cimaszewski.

09:11:28 There will be a test on that afterwards.

09:11:30 Craig, as you can tell, is one of our canine officers and

09:11:33 has been here almost 12 years with the Tampa Police

09:11:35 Department and working very hard every night to keep our

09:11:38 city safe.

09:11:39 In the essence of time I will read you just a few of the

09:11:43 things that he has done every day, as I stated, he's out

09:11:47 there working hard and keeping all of the citizens safe.

09:11:52 Some time back he responded to a burglary in progress.

09:11:55 He was the first individual there, he and his canine partner

09:11:59 Lincoln.

09:12:00 As they approached the residence they made an announcement,

09:12:03 on the front door, was about to release the canine and saw

09:12:06 the burglar run out the side of the residence.

09:12:08 He was able to run around and grab that suspect.

09:12:13 A short time later, he responded to a grand theft call where

09:12:17 there was some equipment stolen prior to his arrival.

09:12:23 It was learned that a witness obtained a good description of

09:12:26 the suspect, a vehicle and a tag number.

09:12:29 Craig obtained the information from the tag and saw that

09:12:31 there were three different addresses associated with that

09:12:35 suspect's vehicle.

09:12:39 He had ROC respond to one of the addresses in Temple Terrace

09:12:43 and he responded to the other two addresses in the Palm

09:12:45 River area.

09:12:46 After checking with negative results for the vehicle, he set

09:12:50 his car up in a position where it couldn't be seen so he

09:12:53 could do surveillance in the entrance of the apartment

09:12:57 complex where that tag came back registered to.

09:12:59 After a short time, suspect's vehicle arrived in the complex

09:13:04 and officer Cimaszewski entered the complex.

09:13:11 He located where the stolen property was in plain view

09:13:14 inside of that car, and then he backed off of the suspect,

09:13:19 came back to the vehicle, unlocked the door, at which time

09:13:21 he placed him under arrest and recovered all of the property

09:13:24 and gave that back to the rightful owner and the suspect

09:13:29 charged with grand theft.

09:13:31 Then the next day he heard via radio there was a subject

09:13:35 seen on video, partly owned by Transcore recycling.

09:13:40 As the units responded and checked around they didn't locate

09:13:43 anything or anyone out of the ordinary.

09:13:47 Believing that the suspect could still be in the area,

09:13:49 officer Cimaszewski and officer Arthur stayed on the scene.

09:13:53 They located the subject that matched the description just

09:13:56 outside of the property walking along the railroad tracks.

09:14:00 The video footage, they went back and reviewed it and it

09:14:03 revealed that indeed was the suspect that had been on the

09:14:07 property, and he also recovered a series of electric motors

09:14:10 that that suspect had taken from business.

09:14:13 He got a full confession from the suspect, and he was

09:14:16 arrested, charged with burglary auto theft.

09:14:19 Again the property was given back to the rightful owner.

09:14:22 Then just a few days later, officers responded to a

09:14:26 suspicious person call in the 200 block of west Woodlawn.

09:14:30 Upon arrival witnesses advised the suspected was trying to

09:14:33 gain entry into this house with a screwdriver trying to pry

09:14:36 open a window.

09:14:37 When challenged, the suspect fled on foot.

09:14:40 And officer Cimaszewski and his partner canine Lincoln were

09:14:46 able to track this individual for two blocks and place him

09:14:48 under arrest on west 26th Avenue.

09:14:50 He was apprehended and charged with attempted burglary.

09:14:54 And in recognition of his hard work and attention to detail,

09:14:58 directly affecting the arrest much three felony suspects,

09:15:02 all while continuing his daily canine duties, and canine

09:15:05 officer, and also for the outstanding work that he has done,

09:15:10 the canine unit is putting together a training facility, and

09:15:15 basically they are putting it together through donations and

09:15:17 through their hard work.

09:15:19 And Craig has built all of the apparatus for the obstacle

09:15:23 course in that canine training facility on his own time.

09:15:27 For everything that he does, he is being recognized, and it

09:15:31 is my honor to name him Officer of the Month for March 2014.

09:15:36 [ Applause ]

09:15:41 >>FRANK REDDICK: On behalf of Tampa City Council we would

09:15:48 like to present you this commendation being selected as

09:15:50 Officer of the Month for March 2014.

09:15:53 Congratulations.

09:15:54 And we wish you the best.

09:15:59 >> Thank you.

09:16:18 On behalf vanguard we would like to give you a $25 gift

09:16:21 certificate.

09:16:23 >> Joe Durkin, Bright House networks.

09:16:37 Congratulations.

09:16:38 Well done.

09:16:39 From all your friends at Bright House, all of our services

09:16:46 for a month.

09:16:47 Thanks a lot.

09:16:47 >> On behalf of the Straz, I would like to give you tickets

09:16:57 to the event next Saturday.

09:16:59 >> Michael Kilgore, on behalf of the Gonzmart family,

09:17:11 Columbia restaurant group.

09:17:13 Thanks for your services.

09:17:14 >> Jill Latecki from Tampa Theatre.

09:17:23 Thank you so much for what you do. We would like to give

09:17:24 you an annual membership to the theater.

09:17:26 >> Frank DeSoto with Bill Currie Ford.

09:17:36 We would like to take this opportunity to thank the officer

09:17:40 for a job well done, present you with this watch.

09:17:44 And I think Jim has something for your partner:

09:17:54 [ Laughter ]

09:17:59 >> Representing Stepp's towing, on behalf of Jim, Judy and

09:18:03 Todd Stepp we would like to congratulate you on a job well

09:18:06 done and Lincoln, a small token of our appreciation for you

09:18:11 and gift certificate to Lee Roy Selmon.

09:18:22 >> And these flowers aren't really for you, it's for your

09:18:28 significant other.

09:18:29 And we are not talking about the dog.

09:18:32 [ Laughter ]

09:18:33 >>STEVE MICHELINI: I'm here on behalf of a couple of

09:18:42 different folks, but prestige photos would like to have your

09:18:46 portraits done and you can go at your convenience and

09:18:48 schedule that.

09:18:50 And Bibalo's cafe, that you can enjoy for lunch or dinner,

09:18:58 your choice.

09:18:59 Congratulations.

09:18:59 And thank you for what you do.

09:19:01 >> I would like to say thank you to Mayor Buckhorn, City

09:19:13 Council, Chief Castor for the events that I participated in.

09:19:17 I feel fortunate every day to be a member of the Tampa

09:19:19 Police Department and to be on the canine unit.

09:19:22 This is a great unit.

09:19:23 I can toll you there's no more satisfaction than watching

09:19:26 our trainers train these dogs every day, and then getting to

09:19:30 deploy them on the various tasks that we do every day and

09:19:34 see them succeed so well.

09:19:36 I would like to say thank you to the citizens and business

09:19:38 owners that are here today and for the gifts associated with

09:19:42 this award.

09:19:43 Without your support, it would be very difficult to be

09:19:47 successful here at the Tampa Police Department as we are.

09:19:50 Thank you.

09:19:52 [ Applause ]

09:19:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Chief, now you know how hard it is to sit

09:20:15 on this dais once in awhile.

09:20:18 Thank you very much.

09:20:18 It's been an honor to have you here for what you have done

09:20:21 and what you continue to do on a daily basis for this great

09:20:24 city.

09:20:25 We appreciate it very much.

09:20:27 I'm getting phone calls from the back from different guys

09:20:30 that I played ball with that there are relatives in the

09:20:34 audience and now I have to announce them, I guess.

09:20:36 If not, I'm not going to be able to go home.

09:20:39 So if you will stand up real quick.

09:20:46 Bob Brianna. Mr. Mike Vinitto played with me and we won two

09:20:52 championships, so everything he's telling you is half truth.

09:20:55 Tell him I said that. Don't worry -- you're buying this

09:20:55 tape.

09:21:00 Then we have Matthew Schoetz, my sister's grandson.

09:21:07 So at the end of the day with council's permission, I am

09:21:09 going to let you one at a time come quickly on your way out

09:21:12 and say your name on the mike so you can have it for your

09:21:16 records when you become a little older and outstanding

09:21:19 citizens and more than likely take our place here one day.

09:21:22 Thanks so much.

09:21:25 [ Applause ]

09:21:27 And please, no more phone calls.

09:21:30 Presentations, commendations.

09:21:32 The next one also by Mr. Reddick to Lenoir Russell.

09:22:05 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

09:22:08 Today, after 31 years of working for the City of Tampa, Ms.

09:22:14 Russell decided to retire.

09:22:16 And I just want to say when she first started working as a

09:22:22 service clerk, she started making 4.50 an hour.

09:22:27 And she was even making $8.

09:22:32 Leaving making $8.

09:22:33 [ Laughter ]

09:22:36 She did get a raise but not much.

09:22:38 But we are honored to be able to hand this commendation to

09:22:45 you for your 31 years of service and also for serving as

09:22:50 vice-president of the city's Black History Committee.

09:22:52 We want to congratulate you.

09:22:55 You didn't get a one-year contract extension, did you?

09:22:59 [ Laughter ]

09:22:59 I was wondering if anyone offered you that.

09:23:01 But we want to present this to you and just wish you great

09:23:07 suck in your fought endeavors, and on behalf of the Tampa

09:23:11 City Council it is our honor to present you this

09:23:14 commendation for 31 years.

09:23:21 My pleasure.

09:23:22 Thank you.

09:23:39 >> I want to thank everybody very much for their kindness

09:23:43 and over the 31 years, this is not easy.

09:23:47 It's a little difficult, to tell the truth.

09:23:51 But I have done my best to leave a legacy of love, kindness

09:23:54 and professionalism when dealing with my co-workers, with my

09:24:00 superiors, and especially the citizens and residents of

09:24:03 Tampa and the bay area.

09:24:06 God is a good God.

09:24:08 He's a God of love, mercy, kindness, forgiveness and

09:24:11 discipline, to name a few attributes, and he knows how to

09:24:15 get things done.

09:24:17 I tried to pattern myself after Jesus.

09:24:20 You may think nothing is happening while you are working,

09:24:25 but by faith, things get done, and for us, you are enjoying

09:24:30 the fruits of your labor.

09:24:32 So started as customer service rep, MIS, went to the

09:24:41 permitting department, and the contractors, then I was in my

09:24:47 housing department which I enjoyed very, very much; to help

09:24:51 first-time home buyers to keep people off the street with

09:24:55 foreclosure prevention, and even now it has been a

09:25:05 tremendous blessing to work for the housing department.

09:25:07 I am think I was in that department for the majority of the

09:25:09 31 years, maybe one or two code enforcement.

09:25:14 So I really, really, really thank the City of Tampa because

09:25:16 I learned a lot.

09:25:20 And I really appreciate the City of Tampa Black History

09:25:22 Committee incorporated, the officers and members.

09:25:27 They know that they are near and dear to my heart.

09:25:34 Sheryllee and frank and everybody, Debby, they are special

09:25:38 people.

09:25:39 And they need the City Council.

09:25:42 We appreciate your support over all of the years, but they

09:25:46 need you.

09:25:47 So please continue to support them and encourage them so

09:25:52 that this good work for the city can go on.

09:25:55 And finally, I dreamed about this day for a long time.

09:25:58 [ Laughter ]

09:26:00 And I'm going to give some undivided attention to God and to

09:26:04 my family.

09:26:05 My mother is a little under the weather so I want to spend

09:26:08 time with her, and my grandchildren.

09:26:10 But I love you and I will miss you.

09:26:12 But you are not out of the picture.

09:26:14 I will be around.

09:26:16 So thank you, thank you, thank you.

09:26:18 [ Applause ]

09:26:36 >> On behalf of the City of Tampa black history community,

09:26:39 we want to thank you for your years of service.

09:26:41 Just thank you.

09:26:45 >> Thank you, little brother.

09:26:49 [ Applause ]

09:26:56 >> And we have a wonderful new manager.

09:27:06 And I thank you inform your support and your encouraging

09:27:09 words.

09:27:12 So thank you.

09:27:23 >>BOB McDONAUGH: Economic development.

09:27:25 Just a brief word about her service to the city.

09:27:29 Our citizens knew that they could always find a sympathetic,

09:27:33 empathetic ear, and they always left feeling better after

09:27:38 their visit.

09:27:39 She went above and beyond and had heartfelt feelings for

09:27:44 each and every one of the citizens than she helped when they

09:27:47 came with the housing department and we thank her for her

09:27:51 giving message and giving ways to our citizens.

09:27:55 [ Applause ]

09:27:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much for your 31 years of

09:28:05 service.

09:28:06 But I know it wasn't just for the $4.50.

09:28:09 For the $8 that you were making after that, as Mr. Reddick

09:28:13 explained, it was the desire to serve the people that needed

09:28:17 help and we are so grateful that you did that for such a

09:28:20 long period of time and hopefully whoever fills those shoes

09:28:23 understand that it's about the people and the life of the

09:28:26 people and not about the salary.

09:28:27 Ms. Mulhern.

09:28:28 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.

09:28:30 What a class act.

09:28:33 You just about brought tears to my eyes with that good-bye.

09:28:40 You have been such a wonderful person to all of us who work

09:28:43 here and to all of the citizens.

09:28:44 And we are really going to miss you.

09:28:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.

09:28:48 Have a nice day.

09:28:55 Okay, we go to item number 3.

09:28:58 It's time for Jocelyn Carpenter of Community Foundation of

09:29:03 Tampa Bay and Ned Pope, and Mr. Pope is the president of the

09:29:14 Florida Next Foundation.

09:29:15 >> I'm Jocelyn Carpenter of the Community Foundation of

09:29:18 Tampa Bay. .

09:29:18 >> I'm Ned Pope, Florida Next foundation.

09:29:22 >> We are here to tell but an exiting project about that our

09:29:26 organizations are partnering on, an initiative that we

09:29:31 partnered together because we are really passionate about

09:29:34 the community, and teaching people, educating people about

09:29:38 philanthropy.

09:29:39 The Community Foundation works for philanthropy across Tampa

09:29:42 Bay but specifically what we are doing with this project is

09:29:45 we really want to help educate the next generation of

09:29:48 community leaders.

09:29:50 And we are really interested.

09:29:53 It's very apropos that the students are here today because

09:29:57 we want to make sure that we are continuing to give back to

09:29:59 the community in any way possible.

09:30:03 Ned: One of the initiatives is to engage everyone in the

09:30:05 four-county region.

09:30:07 What we really want to do is try to introduce some

09:30:09 innovation to the nonprofit sector here in the bay area.

09:30:12 And with the hopes that that will increase our participation

09:30:16 in philanthropy and inspire the next generation of

09:30:19 philanthropists, and also make it a little easier to engage.

09:30:23 One of the things we hear a lot is that young professional

09:30:26 folks don't really know what sort of entities exist or where

09:30:31 to put their passion or how to find their passion in the

09:30:34 nonprofit sector, so focused on their families and careers

09:30:37 as they should be.

09:30:38 So what we try to do is the package an even marketplace for

09:30:43 people to access.

09:30:44 We used to go into the stores and boy CDs and things of that

09:30:47 nature.

09:30:48 Now it's easier to go on iTunes and via phone in two

09:30:54 seconds.

09:30:54 We want to remove some of the administrative barriers for

09:30:57 people to engage at this stage in their career in, that 20

09:31:00 or 40 range of young professionals so we are focusing

09:31:03 heavily on the mobile applications for this initiative,

09:31:07 focusing heavily on exposure through social media and other

09:31:10 means like that, to really try and create a full narrative,

09:31:16 and we are asking for your support.

09:31:17 >> And specifically, what Tampa Bay is, is a Web site, so in

09:31:24 the months leading up to it and across the area are

09:31:27 registering, creating profiles, for anyone in the Tampa Bay

09:31:30 community can log onto the Web site, learn more about a

09:31:33 mission or organization that they may not be familiar with,

09:31:35 and then on May 6th on that Web site you can make a

09:31:40 donation, and 100% of the community foundation is not taking

09:31:45 any administrative fee.

09:31:47 Everything is going back out to the nonprofits.

09:31:49 And we are drumming up support from all the different

09:31:51 communities, and we would love the support of the City of

09:31:54 Tampa.

09:31:55 As now we have several nonprofits in our area.

09:31:59 It's also from an economic standpoint we provide a lot of

09:32:04 employment through the nonprofit sector, and just makes

09:32:07 Tampa a better place to attract businesses, attract

09:32:13 employees, and we want to make sure we are continuing.

09:32:16 >>MIKE SUAREZ: When you give on this particular day on the

09:32:26 Web site can you designate a particularly charity?

09:32:30 >> Absolutely.

09:32:31 And you can do several different charities.

09:32:34 The way you set it up is that nonprofits participating, they

09:32:37 have a log-in for that Web site so they can actually log in

09:32:40 on May 6th and the donors who are participating with

09:32:44 them.

09:32:44 We found in case studies, there would be a 24 hour of things

09:32:49 that happen across the country and about 20 to 25% of donors

09:32:53 are brand new to the organization.

09:32:54 That's what we are trying to provide.

09:32:57 We really want these nonprofits to walk away with a lot of

09:33:00 new people that they can start in their organization and we

09:33:04 also partnered with the nonprofit leadership center in Tampa

09:33:08 to provide some free workshops to the nonprofits.

09:33:11 >> So a nonprofit not currently on the Web site, they would

09:33:14 have to contact you, the easiest way to be put onto the Web

09:33:18 site?

09:33:18 >> Exactly.

09:33:20 And if you go to there is a red button at the

09:33:25 top where you can make a pledge or if you are a nonprofit

09:33:28 you can go ahead and register.

09:33:30 >> Let me stop you for a second.

09:33:32 They have to go to

09:33:39 So there are some organizations that they will know where to

09:33:41 go to.

09:33:42 >> Absolutely.

09:33:43 Thank you, chair.

09:33:44 >>MARY MULHERN: Councilman Suarez asked most of my

09:33:49 questions.

09:33:49 That's great.

09:33:50 So my only question is, is there a deadline for not for

09:33:53 profits to sign up on your Web site for the give day?

09:33:58 >> Right up until the last minute.

09:34:02 However, we are encouraging people to sign up sooner rather

09:34:05 than later so you can take advantage of the campaigns, the

09:34:08 media, and then free training opportunities through the

09:34:11 nonprofit leadership center.

09:34:13 >>MARY MULHERN: This is kind of technical but how is the

09:34:16 giving on the Web site going to work?

09:34:18 Are you going to just send people to the individual Web site

09:34:21 through your link?

09:34:22 Or are you actually collecting?

09:34:26 >> The Community Foundation of Tampa Bay, we will be

09:34:31 processing all of those online donations that day and then

09:34:35 turning around and taking that total and giving it back out.

09:34:38 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you for doing this.

09:34:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you so very much.

09:34:47 Okay.

09:34:48 We go to public comments.

09:34:49 At any time before I go to public comments the individuals

09:34:54 who brought this lovely class from the Villa, in fact my two

09:34:57 girls went to the Villa, eights great school.

09:35:00 At any time that you wish to tell me, hey, I want to come

09:35:04 up, real quickly, when you want to exit -- I'm not telling

09:35:09 you to leave -- when you leave if you want to come up and

09:35:12 give your name on the way out.

09:35:14 That way you are on film and we appreciate it very much.

09:35:17 Like I said, you are the next leaders of this country.

09:35:20 Okay, we go to public comment.

09:35:26 All right.

09:35:27 They want to do it now.

09:35:28 So before I go to public comment, if I may, if you start

09:35:32 right here and just get up and then follow the next row on

09:35:35 the way out, and just say your name on the Mike.

09:35:38 Stop at the mike and keep walking.

09:35:40 Go on, you're first, young lady.

09:35:42 Don't worry about anything.

09:35:44 Get in line.

09:35:44 I want to see the line that follows one of the teachers

09:35:47 there.

09:37:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you all for attending.

09:37:20 Now council, I will vote for anyone who can memorize all the

09:37:24 names that were just given to me.

09:37:26 Thank you very much.

09:37:27 You got my vote.

09:37:28 Okay.

09:37:28 >> All live in my district.

09:37:38 >> They might live in your district.

09:37:40 Anyone to speak, please come forward at this time.

09:37:42 >> Pete Johnson, 510 Harrison street.

09:37:53 I wish I was that young again.

09:37:55 Do this all over.

09:37:58 I take every minute I possibly can to talk about code,

09:38:01 because code to me is so important for the quality of life

09:38:06 in our neighborhoods.

09:38:13 This address had code violations going on since 2000.

09:38:18 It is repeatedly been cleared by the code enforcement

09:38:21 department for an illegal boarding house.

09:38:25 We now have another case on it.

09:38:30 Yet code has not acted.

09:38:34 Code has not designated that it is an illegal structure.

09:38:40 We have gone everywhere from seven electric meters being

09:38:46 installed on it, seven different apartments, people living

09:38:49 in houses, former decisions not being enforced.

09:39:01 Enforcement board decisions not being enforced.

09:39:07 There is something wrong with our system and the problem is

09:39:10 the very, very last page.

09:39:15 If we do not follow the Florida State statute, 162.03, and

09:39:23 hold people accountable according to law, we will never

09:39:29 correct the problem of code.

09:39:32 Now, we have just stopped inspecting multiple units of five

09:39:38 units or more because of a state law.

09:39:42 Understandable.

09:39:43 I believe in following the law.

09:39:47 Why the city does not follow this state statute amazes me.

09:39:54 We are breaking the law.

09:39:57 The city is not in compliance with the law.

09:40:01 We need to correct this problem.

09:40:04 You are the only people that I am at this point allowed to

09:40:10 speak to.

09:40:15 I have been told that I can only speak to certain

09:40:18 administrators, and nine times out of ten there's only one,

09:40:23 and that's Thom Snelling, that has called me back.

09:40:27 And I appreciate that.

09:40:32 But this is ridiculous.

09:40:34 He would cannot keep going on and not following the state

09:40:38 statute.

09:40:39 It came up in a code board hearing yesterday.

09:40:42 It was supported by the entire insurance.

09:40:46 It was supported by the attorney for the board.

09:40:51 We need to uphold the statutes of the State of Florida.

09:40:57 Thank you.

09:40:57 (Bell sounds).

09:40:59 >>FRANK REDDICK: Mr. Johnson, who told you you cannot

09:41:02 speak -- you can only speak to certain administrators?

09:41:07 >> I have been told by several departments that I am limited

09:41:10 to only speaking to certain people.

09:41:15 Now, I also understand that the administration does not have

09:41:17 the obligation to reply back to me.

09:41:22 But they do -- but they have an obligation to reply back to

09:41:26 you.

09:41:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much, sir.

09:41:32 Next, please.

09:41:32 >> Before I start, I would need clarification of the

09:41:40 procedure being followed here.

09:41:42 Do you want people to speak at the end of each workshop?

09:41:45 Or should we speak now?

09:41:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I just gave you the explanation.

09:41:53 When I have a workshop you are entitled to speak after.

09:41:57 You don't know what we are going to say.

09:41:59 >> Could I speak now?

09:42:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: No.

09:42:02 You can speak now for three minutes.

09:42:04 >> Well, okay, that should be enough.

09:42:06 I'll speak to item 4 and 5, because I looked ahead to see

09:42:11 what it is.

09:42:12 And, you know, of course I always want to speak about Volts,

09:42:17 PHEVs and station events, but I am trying to limit to

09:42:23 items 4 and 5.

09:42:24 Okay.

09:42:25 With respect to item 4, I handed this around because in one

09:42:32 of the presentations earlier on, outlining things, economic

09:42:41 viability and sustainability and now it's been changed a

09:42:43 little bit.

09:42:44 And the word environmental is used.

09:42:48 Now, I was an environmental engineer. To me at first that's

09:42:52 nature but they extended it to other things but it's still a

09:42:55 little bit of a subterfuge where I think livable is a little

09:43:00 better because livable, things like this come to play.

09:43:05 This was over in St. Pete.

09:43:06 Somebody going 100 miles per hour.

09:43:08 But this is what is out there.

09:43:10 And here is the other thing.

09:43:13 The red light cameras.

09:43:15 That's coming up now.

09:43:16 And the red light cameras are very critical.

09:43:21 And I wanted to say that.

09:43:24 And thought the intersection would be good, too.

09:43:28 But, anyway, that's stuff that's got to be dealt with.

09:43:32 Now, I talk about volts.

09:43:34 Let me extend that.

09:43:35 Go out and buy a convertible.

09:43:38 Then you will get a sense of the noise around this

09:43:41 community.

09:43:41 Get the police department a convertible.

09:43:44 And the thing is give them a noise meter, and if somebody

09:43:48 with these loud stereos, because they are loud, or without a

09:43:52 muffler, sees a convertible coming up on them, and a gun

09:43:56 being aimed at his car, you know, it's like a light gun but

09:44:04 tells noise levels, it should be 25 feet actually.

09:44:07 But the thing is, it's the county ordinance, and it's the

09:44:10 county that has the equipment, and maybe that this will put

09:44:15 a stop to this.

09:44:16 These $150 fines are not being enforced.

09:44:19 And they are going like this to you.

09:44:24 They are just ignoring.

09:44:26 This it's gotten worse since you put that $150 thing in

09:44:29 because they are giving it to you. So something has to be

09:44:33 done about that.

09:44:34 With respect to items-okay.

09:44:37 With respect to economic liability, I have spoken, the food

09:44:41 industry, licensing seems to be picking up on that now.

09:44:45 The technology corridor.

09:44:48 And a very important part of that is education.

09:44:50 And this was a very good quote by Jeb, but the smart

09:44:55 brother.

09:44:56 And the thing is -- I mean, education, it was the model.

09:45:04 I thought that was wrong.

09:45:05 I have changed my mind.

09:45:06 It is very important.

09:45:07 With respect to item 5, very much of the Jackson house

09:45:11 because the Jackson house could become a bed and breakfast.

09:45:14 (Bell sounds).

09:45:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.

09:45:17 Anyone else?

09:45:18 No wonder our ratings are up.

09:45:21 Thank you.

09:45:21 Okay.

09:45:22 We go to workshops.

09:45:26 These are workshops on item number 4.

09:45:32 And we go to 5 and 6.

09:45:34 Need a motion to open the workshops.

09:45:36 Motion by Mr. Reddick.

09:45:37 Second by Mr. Cohen to open the workshop.

09:45:40 All in favor?

09:45:41 Opposed?

09:45:42 The ayes have it unanimously.

09:45:43 >>BOB McDONAUGH: Economic development.

09:45:45 I would just like to say a couple words about the agreement

09:45:50 being presented this morning.

09:45:51 You know, the last three years went from 8 pages to 30

09:45:57 pages.

09:45:57 The report contains examples of low tech which is the use of

09:46:02 light reflective to high tech.

09:46:05 We have a -- cuts down on the use of lubricants.

09:46:16 Examples, significant cost savings, reduction in chemicals

09:46:20 by the water department, to cost neutral, sourcing food

09:46:25 locally by the convention center, the distribution of unused

09:46:28 food.

09:46:29 Another example of significant savings is the parking

09:46:33 garage, 50% reduction in energy use, to revenue neutral,

09:46:38 which is use of electric carts to reduce our carbon

09:46:41 footprints by the parking department.

09:46:43 This is likely because the employees.

09:46:47 This report was done by Stephanie Stanton in the budget

09:46:50 department and I think you will be very impressed by this

09:46:53 year's report.

09:46:54 The facilities management team, every time they go out to do

09:46:57 a repair, they look at, is there a better way of doing this

09:47:01 in a more energy efficient way of the city to operate?

09:47:05 Brad Baird, I talked briefly about the savings in chemicals.

09:47:08 This past year, he used 1405 tons less of caustic soda in

09:47:16 preparing water for us. A significant amount of chemicals.

09:47:16 Less amount of chemicals.

09:47:18 Anthony Casper on the wastewater team.

09:47:21 You are all aware of the fact we have a co-gen plant with

09:47:24 solid waste to produce electricity.

09:47:30 At our wastewater plant we use co-gen using the methane

09:47:36 that's produced by the process, which basically runs most of

09:47:37 the plant, and he is also pursuing a significant reduction

09:47:41 of chemical use.

09:47:43 You are familiar with what we are doing with fleet, getting

09:47:45 smaller and more efficient vehicles.

09:47:46 Solid waste, CNG.

09:47:49 But can we do more?

09:47:50 The answer is certainly yes.

09:47:52 Will we do more?

09:47:54 The answer is certainly yes.

09:47:55 And it's not about the money, just because it's the right

09:47:58 thing to do.

09:47:59 Thanks a lot.

09:48:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.

09:48:02 In fact, those things have been going on for years.

09:48:04 You produce enough electricity for 15,000 homes in one

09:48:07 plant, and the other plant you produced the little pellets

09:48:11 that you buy at Loews, Home Depot, Ace, fertilizer.

09:48:19 So those things are being sold and we appreciate everything

09:48:21 you are doing.

09:48:22 Yes, sir?

09:48:28 >>THOM SNELLING: Director of planning development.

09:48:31 Actually giving you a report.

09:48:37 One thing I did want to repeat what Mr. McDonaugh did say,

09:48:42 the report that we present to you, a couple, two years ago,

09:48:47 three years ago, and one of the reasons this report comes in

09:48:50 this fashion now, it allows you to continue to grow and

09:48:54 accumulate.

09:48:55 That's why each year it goes from 20 pages to 25 or 30 or

09:48:58 33.

09:48:59 It's because we keep adding and it also provides a way to

09:49:03 track these things as they continue to gone forward.

09:49:08 The actual report is here.

09:49:11 Some things to give to you.

09:49:13 I will also send this report to you electronically, and this

09:49:16 report in total will be online as well.

09:49:18 But today I am going to hand you this paper copy of the

09:49:20 actual report and you can take a look at that.

09:49:54 Can I have the Power Point, please?

09:50:02 This is the report.

09:50:03 And what I have, the report itself has the details.

09:50:08 It's quite extensive.

09:50:09 The Power Point today is just -- it's 18 pages, and it's

09:50:14 really focused on what has taken place over the past year

09:50:17 versus what we have been doing for quite some time now.

09:50:29 These are the five areas of sustainability we report on.

09:50:33 Environment, operations, and partnerships.

09:50:39 The green spaces, a couple -- some of the significant

09:50:42 captain ones -- well, there's more, but these two in front.

09:50:47 The Davis Island dog beach.

09:50:52 It did recapture and improve some of the environment down

09:50:55 there.

09:50:56 Top me the most important thing about that is it actually

09:50:58 installs artificial reefs down there which will increase the

09:51:02 amount of sea life and fish, so the establishment of the

09:51:16 artificial reef was an important part of that project.

09:51:19 You won't see unless you are in the boat or go down and take

09:51:22 a look at it.

09:51:24 The cypress point park, hopefully this isn't folks that are

09:51:27 going to be using it all the time.

09:51:30 But again an area that was underutilized and turn it into a

09:51:35 recreational and environmental amenity.

09:51:37 In the Waterworks Park perhaps is one of the most

09:51:41 significant captain things we have done in recent years.

09:51:45 Reestablishing the ulele springs which by now you know it

09:51:49 was one of the first sources of our drinking water in the

09:51:52 City of Tampa, but more importantly it allowed that spring

09:51:55 to flow more freely adding additional freshwater and

09:51:58 cleaning up the water, which is terribly important, as well

09:52:00 as providing great riverfront access and in an environmental

09:52:06 amenity to an area that was degradated and did not provide

09:52:12 any improvements to the environment itself.

09:52:14 And we did this in partnership to give people assistance

09:52:18 from Southwest Florida Water Management District to help

09:52:21 with the granting to move this project forward.

09:52:25 More green spaces.

09:52:26 It's about connectivity and it's about using some of the

09:52:28 things that we have for more than one purpose.

09:52:32 A good example of that is recently completed Osborne pond

09:52:38 exercise trail, took a facility which is needed to ensure

09:52:42 life and safety throughout that area and made it into an

09:52:45 amenity and made it a multi-access, a multimodal facility.

09:52:53 The upgrade along Bayshore Boulevard, obviously Bayshore

09:52:56 probably the most utilized trail in the City of Tampa, and

09:53:02 that being used by everybody, Segways, skateboarders.

09:53:07 Again, we continue with the greenways and trails.

09:53:10 You may not normally think about the 22nd street roundabout

09:53:13 as part of the connectivity for the trails, and the green

09:53:16 spaces, but truly is the center of that area does provide --

09:53:21 it slows traffic down, makes it safer for pedestrians to use

09:53:23 the adjoining areas, and it begins to help connect more and

09:53:27 more areas, more parts of the urban core of the city

09:53:30 together.

09:53:32 And we also have the New Tampa bridge.

09:53:36 That's significant because, you know, you are looking at

09:53:39 this big bridge where cars are flying over, but what people

09:53:42 sometimes don't realize is they have improved the pedestrian

09:53:45 connectivity in that area so people can maneuver in that

09:53:48 area a lot safer than before that portion was complete.

09:53:54 Again, it's green spaces but it's the multimodal use of

09:53:59 perhaps the second most used vehicle and bicycle, providing

09:54:07 safer bikeways along the routes, virtually all of the

09:54:09 projects that we have going forward, includes bicycle

09:54:14 amenities as part of their rehabilitation.

09:54:17 Mr. McDonaugh pointed out the other department.

09:54:20 The transportation department has that embedded into their

09:54:22 policies as they are looking at capital projects going

09:54:26 forward.

09:54:27 And also the bike share program which will be up and running

09:54:30 this spring.

09:54:31 It will provide -- it will take traffic off the ground.

09:54:34 It will allow people to use bicycle amenities much more

09:54:39 efficiently, and reduce the amount of traffic that will be

09:54:43 there for short trips in and around the central core of the

09:54:46 city.

09:54:50 This is the focus on the environment and ecological types,

09:54:55 items that the city continues to move forward.

09:54:59 This takes tons and tons of trash out of the river and out

09:55:03 of our environment and unsightly for sure but also has a lot

09:55:10 of environmental degradation that goes along with it along

09:55:14 with the vermin it attracts and disease it attracts, and a

09:55:19 safe and healthy environment is very important.

09:55:21 The cleaning up of contaminated properties, continue to work

09:55:25 vigorously in the browns field program, over in solid waste,

09:55:29 and environmental management works that program a lot.

09:55:33 We have an active program that continues, started out as a

09:55:36 pilot grant.

09:55:37 And particularly in my department, the urban ecological

09:55:42 study and urban forest plant along with the working force

09:55:45 working group, that plan itself recently completed late last

09:55:50 year will become some of the base that we amend our tree and

09:55:54 landscape code and various buffers and things like that and

09:55:58 puts us a little more in tune, actually a lot more in tune

09:56:01 with mow how he would want to move forward and establish

09:56:04 what types of codes we follow as we continue development

09:56:07 throughout the city.

09:56:13 Again, I put up these plan here, the envision plan as well

09:56:18 as historic preservation, because within that plan, for the

09:56:21 InVision plan as well as the central city plan that was part

09:56:24 of that and our historic preservation program,

09:56:26 sustainability is embedded throughout those plans entirely.

09:56:30 The grant that we had required it.

09:56:33 And it talks about multimodal, talks about environmental,

09:56:36 talks about historic preservation, reusing our buildings.

09:56:40 So those things, those things are the things that are

09:56:42 embedded in how we are going to implement and how we are

09:56:45 going to continues to move forward as a city.

09:56:46 Sustainability is embedded in virtually every element of our

09:56:51 comprehensive plan.

09:56:53 And as that plan is revised and amended by my staff, that

09:56:56 type of perspective will continue to grow and take a larger

09:57:01 role in that.

09:57:05 Again just kind of going over it.

09:57:07 You have the new urbanism.

09:57:08 I put that up there because we recently wrapped up the

09:57:12 Seminole Heights efforts toward the end of last summer,

09:57:15 beginning of fall, and some of the projects that are

09:57:17 currently being developed are being developed with the smart

09:57:21 growth, with the pedestrian accessibility

09:57:42 Ecofest.

09:57:43 Our participation with the Urban Land Institute, we started

09:57:46 that a few years back, did panel studies for downtown, then

09:57:50 we were awarded, Mayor Buckhorn became a UIL fellow and

09:57:59 studied growth and how to implement those things.

09:58:02 And another step to of that is manager Cathy Coyle, she was

09:58:07 appointed to the transit oriented development council on

09:58:10 that, U.S. products council.

09:58:13 Why that is significant is because that will copy us at the

09:58:16 forefront of sustainable practices, sustainable policies,

09:58:20 and urban land development activity.

09:58:24 Having somebody serve on that council helps bring focus and

09:58:28 also provides us with a great resource because she is in

09:58:30 contact with the people on a national level.

09:58:34 So it does step Tampa up to the forefront of those kinds of

09:58:38 activities and people will look to us to participate in

09:58:42 sustainable activities, other sustainable products, and

09:58:46 actually very proud to have her having been appointed to

09:58:49 that.

09:58:51 That was her doing and certainly not mine.

09:59:02 Of learning gate.

09:59:07 A school up in Lutz, which is -- the first gold elementary

09:59:14 school in the State of Florida.

09:59:15 They have had an ongoing -- they celebrated since their

09:59:20 inception, an ecofest.

09:59:21 And even though it's in Lutz, it's not technically in the

09:59:24 City of Tampa, I don't know that environmental issues really

09:59:27 have a line in the sand that they follow, water flows, the

09:59:33 same with bad air, but they reached out to us and some of

09:59:36 the folks in parks and recreation and special events, we

09:59:40 were able to work with them and partner with them.

09:59:42 So we are bringing their ecofest events to Lowry Park which

09:59:47 they are anticipating over 5,000 visitors, 120 vendors, the

09:59:51 city will be there with some of our parks and recreation,

09:59:54 solid wastewater, et cetera, and just celebrate the urban

09:59:58 environment and the ecological benefits that take place.

10:00:02 Sometimes we get so bogged down in the pollution and every

10:00:12 once in a while step back and say, now, we really are doing

10:00:16 some things right, so we partner with them to have our earth

10:00:19 day celebration as part of their celebration and hope to do

10:00:22 so for the future as well.

10:00:24 So please do come out on April 12th.

10:00:26 We will be there.

10:00:27 I will have my dogs there.

10:00:50 Frankly, I think our water department, Mr. McDonaugh told

10:00:53 you about the savings with some of the chemicals.

10:00:55 If you look up here, these are just some of the things that

10:00:58 we offer to our consumers, plumbing kits, leak detection

10:01:02 kits, water barrels, are build your own rebate program,

10:01:09 which is amazing, you decide how much money you want to

10:01:12 save, how much you are going to conserve, you sign a pledge

10:01:15 that you are going to do that and if you reach that, you get

10:01:17 that rebate.

10:01:18 And it has really helped.

10:01:19 It's a fairly unique program but I think our water

10:01:22 department steps up offering the various conservations,

10:01:27 programs that they have.

10:01:29 I think we are second to none in that regard.

10:01:46 Beings we have worked with the Sierra Club, University of

10:01:49 South Florida, Hillsborough County with the Environmental

10:01:51 Protection Commission, various workshops with the water

10:01:55 department on landscape, Florida water

10:02:00 and that was with the southwest Florida water management

10:02:13 district.

10:02:14 Okay.

10:02:16 More with

10:02:17 The green environment.

10:02:18 Again, working with the D.O.T. and Hillsborough County, MPO.

10:02:23 Improving the signalization

10:02:43 Some of the PTA folks got on a program to encourage people

10:02:46 to not stand in line for their children, turn their cars

10:02:49 off, because people would idle for a half hour or an hour,

10:02:55 and they went to a program and showed by just come there and

10:02:57 turning their car off, save emission, save gas, and the

10:03:01 amount of pollutants you are putting in the air.

10:03:03 It's the same thought in making your signalization clearer

10:03:06 so there's less idle time.

10:03:12 Another important thing to point out quickly is the

10:03:15 electronic and chemical collections that the solid waste

10:03:20 department does.

10:03:21 On an annual basis, they pull 42,000 pounds of electronics

10:03:34 and chemicals, because the electronics they put in there,

10:03:37 including paint and all that stuff, is terribly degrading to

10:03:42 the environment, and environmental problems, the same thing

10:03:50 with the electronics, the chemicals and the medals in there

10:03:53 if allowed to get into the water stream and causes problems

10:03:56 for drinking water as well as soil.

10:04:01 Recycling has gone through the roof recently were the advent

10:04:04 of the new carts they put into place.

10:04:07 We have other initiatives coming up to expand our services

10:04:13 to commercial.

10:04:14 And as you know I moved back into the city a little over a

10:04:17 year ago, and probably a month after I was there I got my

10:04:21 own green cart, and anecdotally my switch from garbage is

10:04:29 probably 80% recycling, 20% garbage.

10:04:32 There are times I don't put out my garbage for two weeks at

10:04:34 a time.

10:04:35 And recycling goes out every Thursday.

10:04:37 And it's full.

10:04:41 So I may be an extreme example but I'm sure others follow

10:04:44 very similar suit.

10:04:45 >>FRANK REDDICK: You eat out more, that's all.

10:04:55 >> In Seminole Heights.

10:05:00 Green operations.

10:05:01 I'm very jealous, my staff can't use some of these cars

10:05:06 because we spend a great deal of time moving back from 1400

10:05:10 here.

10:05:10 Right now I have Cathy Coyle here, later on Gloria, half of

10:05:14 my staff on Thursdays are running back and forth.

10:05:17 I would like to get the transportation manager, the parking

10:05:23 manager, Jim Corbett, to let us have a couple of those GEM

10:05:28 vehicles, electric vehicles.

10:05:29 And they have reduced greenhouse gas emissions.

10:05:32 They have reduced the amount of fuel used.

10:05:35 Everything that happens there because they are electronic

10:05:38 and they are able to handle all of their operations within a

10:05:40 very small area of downtown and take care of all the parking

10:05:43 garages in a much more energy efficient fashion.

10:05:47 I put the TECO streetcar up there because I hadn't done that

10:05:51 in the past.

10:05:52 It's not like this is brand new obviously.

10:05:54 But on an annual basis, 28,000 conventioneers -- and that's

10:06:00 not a typo in that number.

10:06:02 Those are real numbers of people that use the street car

10:06:05 when moving in and around.

10:06:07 Why that's important, because what happens is that streetcar

10:06:09 does allow people access to the central business district,

10:06:13 it allows access to the Channel District which is typically

10:06:15 where their conventions are, and also allows them to access

10:06:20 Ybor City in a very efficient way.

10:06:22 I know the streetcar when it came out people thought it was

10:06:24 somewhat of a novelty in terms of transportation.

10:06:26 The reality is, with the advent of the residents and the

10:06:29 growth, and increased activity going on in those three core

10:06:34 areas of central city, the streetcar is becoming more and

10:06:37 more viable, legitimate transportation thing, and will

10:06:40 continue to move in that direction in the future, I'm sure.

10:06:43 But I wanted to point this out to you, those are just

10:06:48 conventioneers that use it.

10:06:52 The residents use it on a fairly frequent basis as well.

10:06:57 More on the green operations, the route optimization.

10:07:01 It speaks more to what Mr. McDonaugh said about the

10:07:04 efficiencies of how we tend to do the operation.

10:07:08 Some of that that has resulted in reduction of fuel

10:07:11 consumption, 1.1%, not huge, but anytime you can reduce your

10:07:16 consumption, that's a movement in the right direction.

10:07:19 Replacement of the diesel engines, converters.

10:07:27 Their byproduct is nitrogen and water.

10:07:31 Nitrogen, as you know, represents 73 or 77% of the air that

10:07:38 you breathe is nitrogen.

10:07:40 We always think it's oxygen but it's not.

10:07:42 It's predominantly nitrogen.

10:07:45 And then again, more on the automated recycling made

10:07:50 significant improvements in terms of its operation and

10:07:53 efficiency.

10:07:54 Again the efficiencies that we do by reducing energy

10:08:01 consumption, by reducing energy consumption, we save money,

10:08:05 but we have to generate less money which reduces the amount

10:08:08 of greenhouse gas emissions.

10:08:11 And then I just pointed out some of the L.E.D., the cool

10:08:17 roofs, the construction materials, or the cool-roof

10:08:22 materials throughout the city, convention center has nine

10:08:24 acres covered in the cool roof, reduces the amount of money

10:08:28 that they have to spend to cool the building itself.

10:08:31 That alone with the improved chillers that you heard about

10:08:34 before has helped them really reduce the amount of energy

10:08:38 consumption that they do just by continuing to move towards

10:08:41 more and more efficient operation.

10:08:47 More on the facilities in Drew Park, while not terribly

10:08:50 sexy, they are following a bio swale protest which captures

10:08:56 the water and helps clean it more efficiently and taking

10:08:58 more of the pollutants and more of the bad things out of the

10:09:01 water by capturing it and utilizing it as part of an amenity

10:09:05 versus just a drainage pond.

10:09:07 Again, daylight harvesting at the convention center by

10:09:13 utilizing daylight, you can go walk around by the day by

10:09:16 opening up the windows and getting rid of the shades you can

10:09:18 have usable light without everything to power things that

10:09:21 way.

10:09:21 Then we are partnering with energy star, at the convention

10:09:28 center as well.

10:09:33 LEED buildings.

10:09:34 Now the city did not build all 27 of those but currently

10:09:37 there are 27 new registered LEED buildings going on in the

10:09:43 Tampa area.

10:09:44 That includes commercial, recreation as well as residential.

10:09:47 I pulled it up the LEED Web site you can see all of the

10:10:00 buildings listed there.

10:10:01 There's many of them.

10:10:02 Why that's important is because the first report I did in

10:10:07 2009, I put up that in that particular year there were, I

10:10:12 think, nine new buildings that were LEED.

10:10:14 This year there's 27.

10:10:16 So it's encouraging that the private sector, they get it.

10:10:21 They are getting it.

10:10:22 And they are moving in that direction by moving more and

10:10:24 more of their buildings as LEED certified silver, gold and

10:10:29 platinum.

10:10:30 Encore, I pointed that out to you because the city put in

10:10:34 $2.375 million towards the construction of that project.

10:10:37 That project is going to receive a LEED gold certification

10:10:44 so that is important because it accomplishes affordable

10:10:46 housing for the needy citizens we have as well as

10:10:48 establishes the standards by which you can build affordable

10:10:51 housing by following the LEED certified pattern.

10:10:56 And then lastly, just to show that the partner is continuing

10:11:04 to expand its LEED business program further.

10:11:08 I have a list of the names there.

10:11:09 But the other thing that's kind of exciting is right now

10:11:12 something that has really expanded, and includes working

10:11:16 with some of the downtown partners.

10:11:18 Now, you see them on the bottom, the various restaurants is

10:11:21 to really bring recycling and use of -- less use of

10:11:27 Styrofoam, plastic cups and returning back to a more

10:11:29 environmentally friendly way with the downtown businesses as

10:11:33 they brought that into focus.

10:11:35 So that's the new direction, and we have enjoyed a

10:11:40 partnership with them for several years.

10:11:41 Just want to point out they have continued to be aggressive

10:11:44 in bringing more businesses into that program as well as

10:11:48 reaching out to core sector for businesses or restaurants.

10:11:53 Restaurants produce a good deal of waste in getting them to

10:11:57 recycle their cardboard boxes and beer cases and their cans

10:12:01 and all of those things are very important.

10:12:03 Also, encourage them to get AP way from the use of plastic.

10:12:08 And that's kind of what the new focus is.

10:12:12 And I will answer any questions you have.

10:12:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have Mrs. Mulhern, Mrs. Montelione,

10:12:20 Mrs. Capin.

10:12:21 >>MARY MULHERN: Thanks for the presentation, Thom.

10:12:25 And I have a number of questions and quite a few

10:12:28 suggestions.

10:12:29 >>THOM SNELLING: Okay.

10:12:29 >>MARY MULHERN: First, just I noticed here -- and this is

10:12:35 for our own information -- it looked like it said June

10:12:40 13th for the hazardous waste collection or pickup.

10:12:49 That was last year.

10:12:52 The 13th is a Friday.

10:12:54 Friday the 13th.

10:12:58 >>THOM SNELLING: I will have to find that out.

10:13:00 >>MARY MULHERN: Let us know when that is.

10:13:02 Okay.

10:13:02 Then my big question about this whole presentation is, I

10:13:06 believe that this report that started more than four years

10:13:13 ago, right?

10:13:18 >> I believe in '09.

10:13:21 >>MARY MULHERN: So there were a couple of things.

10:13:23 And one of them was that we -- and it was in response to us

10:13:29 renewing the TECO franchise agreement, and there was that

10:13:36 mayor's citizens committee that made recommendations.

10:13:41 I would like to, you know, maybe next year when you do this,

10:13:45 make sure -- and you may have done that, and it may be in

10:13:48 here, because this is a very comprehensive and long report.

10:13:51 But what recommendations that were arrived at that were

10:13:58 adopted?

10:14:00 >>THOM SNELLING: Okay.

10:14:00 >>MARY MULHERN: And then my big question, though, I know

10:14:03 that we did greenhouse gas emission baseline inventory, and

10:14:11 I would think that you should be tracking that, as you give

10:14:17 us this report on, if it's adopted, overall are we reducing

10:14:24 our output and how much?

10:14:27 >>THOM SNELLING: Yes.

10:14:28 And you pointed out the task force.

10:14:32 They made some recommendations and the energy conservation

10:14:34 plan, that's the baseline study.

10:14:39 My work program along with my intern and the other folks

10:14:43 that help is to start to pinpoint.

10:14:45 They did point out in the study a number of policies, and

10:14:51 the work program over the next 12 months, next year, to take

10:14:56 some of those policies and see which have been implemented.

10:14:59 I have started to track that.

10:15:02 There's quite a few.

10:15:03 But I will bring that back next time.

10:15:04 But this year, my work program officer is to take that study

10:15:10 and implement a lot of those things.

10:15:12 Because what this report shows is that our other

10:15:14 departments, they are operating as efficiently as possible.

10:15:20 My focus will be the next work program will be on those two

10:15:24 studies.

10:15:24 >> And what about the measuring your reductions an carbon

10:15:31 output?

10:15:32 >> That's part of the energy conservation program that will

10:15:36 show.

10:15:36 And by showing which of the policies we have started to

10:15:41 implement, I should be able to start to see where there have

10:15:44 been reductions.

10:15:45 >>MARY MULHERN: Okay.

10:15:47 But I think what we need to follow up on that inventory and

10:15:54 measure what our total output is compared to that to see if

10:16:00 we are achieving some reductions overall.

10:16:06 >>THOM SNELLING: Okay.

10:16:06 Understood.

10:16:06 >>MARY MULHERN: I remember back when we talked about this

10:16:11 before you even did the study, there were some volunteers

10:16:18 who were willing to do the measurement.

10:16:21 So I think it's important enough that we should fund it if

10:16:25 we need to.

10:16:27 But it's also something you might be able to get from

10:16:31 graduate school help on.

10:16:38 These are just comments.

10:16:40 And I know you talked about the white roof, but I think we

10:16:49 need to be -- the cities need to be leaders in solar energy

10:16:55 in Florida, and it just shameful that we are not.

10:16:58 And that's not just the cities, but that, you know, overall,

10:17:02 in the sunshine state, we are not moving forward with solar,

10:17:05 which has now, the cost has come down to be equal with the

10:17:10 cost of natural gas.

10:17:12 So all the arguments about it's too expensive, we need to

10:17:17 look at solar options.

10:17:19 And I think, you know, you have got the convention center

10:17:22 there that's huge, square footage of roof, we could be

10:17:26 putting solar panels on there.

10:17:28 Another thing that I have talked to those in the private

10:17:33 sector and to the city about is solar canopies for our

10:17:38 parking lots, for all of our surface and roof parking lots,

10:17:42 we could have solar canopies which they provide shade, and

10:17:46 they would provide electricity.

10:17:50 And also I want to point out that we have a leader at USF in

10:17:55 Dr. Goswami on solar and we should be working with USF on

10:18:04 city buildings.

10:18:06 Then this one is another question.

10:18:09 About the hybrid vehicles.

10:18:10 I know you showed us those little smart cars.

10:18:13 That's great.

10:18:15 But, you know, we have been asking for this for at least

10:18:18 seven years, that the city increase the number of hybrid and

10:18:24 electric vehicles to reduce our carbon output.

10:18:29 I would like to know if we have any goals, and what the

10:18:32 total number that we have increased to, because I think it

10:18:36 was -- it was under 10 with what we had as far as hybrid

10:18:42 cars back, I don't know, six, seven, eight years ago.

10:18:46 I would like to know, you know, how many we have now.

10:18:54 I don't know if you have an answer to that or if you want to

10:18:56 just come back with that.

10:18:58 >>THOM SNELLING: Okay.

10:18:59 >>MARY MULHERN: Then this is a suggestion.

10:19:02 And last week, I don't know if you were here or if you saw

10:19:06 our meeting, but at the beginning of the meeting, we had

10:19:10 Holly greening from the Tampa Bay estuary program, and with

10:19:14 all the water quality things that you are talking about,

10:19:20 please be aware and take advantage.

10:19:23 They have 50 to $150,000 grants for water restoration

10:19:29 projects from the estuary program.

10:19:33 So we could be funding more work.

10:19:35 And I'm not sure exactly what things those would cover but

10:19:39 it's pretty broad.

10:19:42 You mentioned the Davis islands, sea grass.

10:19:46 >> The artificial reefs.

10:19:48 >>MARY MULHERN: Right.

10:19:50 So anything like that.

10:19:52 And might even cover some of the dredging that we are doing

10:19:55 and the canals.

10:20:02 Yes, it looks like solid waste is really doing a great job

10:20:05 with the increase in recycling.

10:20:09 And I would say I'm the same as you.

10:20:12 I'm now having much more recycling than garbage, which is

10:20:17 great.

10:20:18 But the next generation, and what is really, really amazing

10:20:23 in solid waste is composting.

10:20:29 And I heard about this from my daughter who lives in

10:20:32 San Francisco.

10:20:32 80% of their garbage is now goes to composting.

10:20:45 So hopefully we will be looking at that.

10:20:47 And when you mentioned historic preservation I would like to

10:20:50 point out a couple of historic sites that the city is not

10:20:56 taking care of.

10:20:57 And I would like to see us do that.

10:21:00 And I know council has been behind and ahead of us -- on me

10:21:06 on this, but the Jackson house historic site that it would

10:21:10 make sense for us to support in some way and help them to

10:21:15 shore that up.

10:21:17 And Kiley Gardens, which used to have probably -- I don't

10:21:25 know how many but maybe 100 trees, which would be, you know,

10:21:31 carbon, providing shade, and being an incredible historic

10:21:36 landmark.

10:21:37 And I would like to see us bring that back.

10:21:46 Oh, and then another thing I want to suggest that you put in

10:21:50 your next report that the Parks Department is doing a lot

10:21:57 with community and organic gardens in education and

10:22:04 providing those.

10:22:05 And they have even adopted -- they are doing an orchard

10:22:15 project at Rowlett park.

10:22:17 So those are some good things.

10:22:20 But, you know, I think the big picture things are tracking

10:22:26 our emissions, carbon output, and doing solar.

10:22:38 Thank you.

10:22:40 >>THOM SNELLING: I think I got it all.

10:22:41 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Well, Mrs. Mulhern hit on a lot of

10:22:47 things I was going to say.

10:22:48 But thank you inform that because I want to be mindful of

10:22:50 the time.

10:22:51 The things that I would like to bring up in addition to

10:22:55 fully supporting everything that Ms. Mulhern just said was a

10:23:00 long time ago when I worked on the green ordinance with the

10:23:06 previous council and getting that resolution on the books

10:23:09 was that a lot was talked about with providing incentives

10:23:14 for new buildings to conserve water and using gray water,

10:23:20 or, you know, the old-fashioned building a big hole in the

10:23:24 ground to retain water on-site was not something that we

10:23:29 wanted to do in the urban area, but it continues to be part

10:23:33 of our stormwater code.

10:23:35 And, you know, incentives can be instituted in a lot of

10:23:39 ways, and we do have the fast tracking, but I'm not sure

10:23:43 that that really was the building community is looking for

10:23:48 in ways to improve their reuse of water on-site.

10:23:55 So I would like to see some more work in that direction.

10:24:00 And how we can look at different strategies that would

10:24:05 encourage new buildings to retain their water on-site, not

10:24:10 just in a big hole in the ground but to reuse that water.

10:24:16 The water department has been doing a great job with the

10:24:19 build your own rebate program, but I would like to see

10:24:23 outreach efforts done for that because in the commercial

10:24:26 sector, I'm not sure how many commercial operations are

10:24:32 utilizing that program.

10:24:33 So maybe report with just some numbers and not a formal

10:24:37 report but just some numbers from Mr. Baird or from Mr.

10:24:41 Franco on how many businesses are actually utilizing that to

10:24:46 see if maybe we can step up our efforts to outreach to those

10:24:49 business owners.

10:24:54 This is something we see all over the city, and something I

10:24:57 have actually gotten complaints from the public about is the

10:25:00 trash that seems to be thrown out just about anywhere

10:25:05 without regard for the environment.

10:25:06 I know I walked my dog around the trail park and always end

10:25:13 up picking up trash along the lake there.

10:25:18 One thing I notice is there's only one trash bin, or two

10:25:23 trash bins in the entire 17-acre park, and none of them are

10:25:28 by the lake.

10:25:29 The solar compacter, trash bins that were featured in a

10:25:35 report, something we starred installing in 2010, would be

10:25:41 great to have in different parks around town or even on city

10:25:48 streets in places where we don't wants to have the solid

10:25:52 waste folks going on a regular routine basis.

10:25:55 But if you have a compacter, you know, once a month they

10:25:59 could go out there and empty that and would be plenty.

10:26:02 But I would like to see more use of those solar compacters.

10:26:06 I also met with some folks who were in the recycling

10:26:09 business who would like to be see something in the parks

10:26:14 where we have recreational activities, ballparks and such,

10:26:19 because during the season, there is a lot of trash and a lot

10:26:22 of recycling generated, but there's in a where toe put it.

10:26:26 So I think those solar compacters could come in handy there.

10:26:33 Awhile back, we had a workshop, and several experts in the

10:26:38 industry have come and talked to us about different

10:26:40 strategies that we would be utilizing, and I don't know that

10:26:46 we are really taking full advantage of that as Mrs. Mulhern

10:26:49 stated.

10:26:49 We have folks at USF who would be willing to volunteer their

10:26:53 expertise and time as far as capturing the numbers for our

10:26:58 carbon output or the savings that we had with all the

10:27:01 strategies that we have in place, to really talk about --

10:27:06 let's toot our Horne a little bit about all these great

10:27:09 programs that have been put into place over the years.

10:27:11 We are doing a great job but I don't know that we are

10:27:13 effectively measuring it.

10:27:15 So making use of those folks and the folks over at CH 2 hill

10:27:21 who have also, you know, dedicated or volunteered their time

10:27:24 to help us in that regard.

10:27:26 So I think that we have a lot of industry knowledge right

10:27:30 here in Tampa in taking advantage of that industry expertise

10:27:37 would bode well for us.

10:27:38 That being said, I know you mentioned the programs they are

10:27:44 working on but as far as I know they are not being

10:27:46 compensated for the work that they are doing.

10:27:48 So, you know, as much as we are doing and investing on our

10:27:56 own time, but individuals investing their time as well, and

10:28:02 I think as Mrs. Mulhern stated we as a city need to be a

10:28:06 leader and to show that we have a commitment sometimes to

10:28:09 institute some of these larger programs, we do have to pay

10:28:14 people in order to really say that we are committing to

10:28:19 these things and not just relying on volunteers to institute

10:28:25 some of these programs.

10:28:26 And it was in talking with some of the folks talking about

10:28:32 that composting issue and seeing how much is going out as

10:28:39 far as food waste, and I know in my own household as you

10:28:45 said anecdotally I have always generated more recycling but

10:28:49 since I started composting it's amazing how much I generate

10:28:54 just from the scratches from my kitchen with vegetables and

10:28:57 peelings and eggs shells and coffee grinds and things of

10:29:02 that nature.

10:29:02 And if I am doing that when I am not home to cook all the

10:29:06 time, I can imagine what a restaurant puts out on a daily

10:29:09 basis.

10:29:12 The last thing I want to mention, because again Ms. Mulhern

10:29:16 hit on everything else, was the TECO weatherization.

10:29:21 It is mentioned in here on the TECO energy task force page,

10:29:26 there is a page but it's not fully, I don't think, all the

10:29:30 goals that they stated.

10:29:31 There's only five here.

10:29:34 But one of them is weatherization.

10:29:38 And it's come to my attention that I think there's only one

10:29:41 company that TECO works with, and maybe two on the

10:29:46 commercial side.

10:29:47 In residential, there's many companies that they work with

10:29:51 for the residential weatherization program.

10:29:54 But on the commercial side not so much.

10:29:57 And when you talk about green buildings and carbon

10:30:04 emissions, a lot of people really carbon emissions with

10:30:08 cars, but it's the building environment.

10:30:10 It's the vertical environment, 40% comes from the built

10:30:18 environment.

10:30:19 So with these large commercial buildings I think we can step

10:30:21 up efforts by adding more than one or two contractors who

10:30:24 are out there working with business owners, building owners,

10:30:28 property owners, to step up their weatherization efforts.

10:30:33 So I think we can get a lot of bang for our buck.

10:30:40 And one other thing.

10:30:42 I just forwarded to you -- and I talked about Randy

10:30:46 Kleinworth with the energy star certification, the county

10:30:49 has been doing ongoing efforts.

10:30:51 And I just dug out the e-mail.

10:30:54 It was from February.

10:30:55 Sorry, I didn't e-mail it sooner.

10:30:57 But the that's now in your in-box and also in Ray Herbert's

10:31:04 inbox for the link to energy star programs for commercial

10:31:06 buildings.

10:31:07 So maybe we can startles showing how many of our buildings

10:31:10 meet that standard, and also quantify that effort that we

10:31:17 have made.

10:31:18 Because I'm sure with everything we have been doing, we have

10:31:20 a lot of buildings out there and we can maybe become a city

10:31:25 that shows the efforts that we are making.

10:31:30 Thank you.

10:31:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.

10:31:34 Mrs. Capin.

10:31:39 >>YVONNE CAPIN: It's interesting that the streetcar is on

10:31:42 here, the TECO streetcar.

10:31:44 I served on the board for three years, and one of the things

10:31:48 that at the state of the city speech that the mayor

10:31:52 emphasized that the public transportation does not pay for

10:31:56 itself.

10:31:58 So one of the things that we found with the TECO streetcar

10:32:02 was we kept cutting back on the hours in order to meet the

10:32:06 budget, to be able to sustain the streetcar.

10:32:10 And what's happened is because of that, the people that live

10:32:14 in the district that could take advantage of the streetcar

10:32:18 aren't because the hours that the streetcar is running does

10:32:23 not coincide with the hours that they need to get to work

10:32:28 and come home.

10:32:30 So what I found is that the streetcars, still the hours are

10:32:37 very limited, and again, we need to -- you know, we have a

10:32:43 system right now in place which is this street car.

10:32:48 And to expand it, to add to it, expand the loop, if you

10:32:57 will, to continue the loop with rubber trolley, would be

10:33:03 very helpful.

10:33:05 You know, we go back as a child, I rode the bus with my

10:33:12 mother.

10:33:13 I also road it by myself to get to my Girl Scout meetings.

10:33:17 Public transportation was very much part of everyone's life

10:33:20 here.

10:33:28 I think we could utilize that streetcar a lot more.

10:33:31 We own it.

10:33:31 We should be enhancing it so that our citizens can take

10:33:34 advantage of it more.

10:33:39 And the mayor was absolutely right in that public

10:33:43 transportation has never paid for itself.

10:33:47 I don't know if it ever will, but it does not.

10:33:50 And we need to support it with our tax dollars.

10:33:55 As far as their recycling, the recycling part, I'm very

10:33:59 happy to get my recycling cart last week.

10:34:03 However, my daughter, who lives literally ten blocks from

10:34:07 me, but on the other side of Kennedy Boulevard, had hers a

10:34:11 year ago.

10:34:11 And one of the things I found was that I know that Dade

10:34:14 County, when they put out their recycling, they did it all

10:34:20 at one time.

10:34:21 And I remember when it came to us that we were talking

10:34:24 about, it was going to be put out in sections, and the areas

10:34:29 that were highest recyclers were going to get their carts

10:34:34 first.

10:34:34 Well, I found something out.

10:34:36 When my husband passed away, who was the one who took the

10:34:41 blue box out, that when that blue box, when that newspaper

10:34:45 and that cardboard gets wet, and wove tons of rain here, I

10:34:49 was dragging that cart out, and I'm so grateful that I got

10:34:54 my blue recycling cart because I had decided that I wasn't

10:34:57 going to do that anymore.

10:34:58 And I was putting my recycling in my car and taking it to my

10:35:02 daughter's house and putting it in her cart.

10:35:08 >>THOM SNELLING: Well, God bless you.

10:35:09 [ Laughter ]

10:35:11 >> My daughter said you have to care about your grandson's

10:35:14 future, and I do.

10:35:16 But I think that what Dade County found and what we are

10:35:20 probably going to see here is when they put their carts out

10:35:24 at all times their recycling went from the teens like 17% to

10:35:28 like 60 or 70, somewhere in there.

10:35:31 It was a very high number.

10:35:32 It jumped very much.

10:35:33 And I realized why.

10:35:35 And it was because you have the areas where you have lower

10:35:37 recycling, where you have elderly people, single women, men,

10:35:44 that are not able to, and that could very well have been

10:35:49 part of why we have lower recycling.

10:35:53 But I'm glad to hear the carts, they are now out in the

10:35:58 entire city?

10:36:03 >>THOM SNELLING: I think so but that's something I can check

10:36:05 very quickly.

10:36:08 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I would like to track those numbers.

10:36:11 Maybe we can do a competition with Dade County, see if our

10:36:15 numbers go up as fast as theirs did.

10:36:18 But that's all I have to say.

10:36:20 Oh, and composting.

10:36:22 I want you to know, it brought back 35, almost 40 years ago,

10:36:30 visiting my husband's family in Spain.

10:36:35 I was so surprised that there was absolutely no trash.

10:36:39 There was no trash and I couldn't figure out why.

10:36:43 They compost.

10:36:45 This was 40 years ago.

10:36:48 And I'm looking at it.

10:36:50 And I thought it was so novel.

10:36:54 But to them it was a way of life.

10:36:56 It was the way they conducted their every day.

10:37:00 I even remember asking -- the grandmother asking me if I had

10:37:05 any stockings to mend.

10:37:06 And I looked at her with a very puzzled look, and she said

10:37:10 oh, yes, you are American.

10:37:12 You throw away everything.

10:37:13 40 years ago she said that to me. Anyway, thank you.

10:37:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Mr. Suarez?

10:37:19 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thom, thanks for the report.

10:37:21 It was very thorough.

10:37:22 We appreciate all the things that you are doing and leading

10:37:26 a lot of these initiatives and making sure that the rest is

10:37:31 the same.

10:37:32 A quick question about the garbage trucks.

10:37:36 You mentioned in the report that you are looking at a

10:37:38 temporary refueling site until a permanent one is selected.

10:37:42 Have you contacted Hart which is now opening a new CNG site?

10:37:48 And we have the airport park, two of the entities that are

10:37:52 currently doing CNG stations to find out if we can use it,

10:37:58 A, either on a temporary basis, or, B, on a permanent basis

10:38:03 to save cost in terms of -- the costs when you have to build

10:38:08 one is a lot more than if you are partnering with someone

10:38:10 else.

10:38:11 So I wasn't sure if that's something that you or solid

10:38:14 waste --

10:38:16 >>THOM SNELLING: Mark Wilfork, he was here last week.

10:38:21 He's just getting his feet wet.

10:38:22 I'll check with him to see what the status is.

10:38:25 Because solid waste, environmental management, was leading

10:38:28 that effort to either have an agreement with somebody or to

10:38:32 lease space or whatever, because they have the trucks.

10:38:35 >>MIKE SUAREZ: The only suggestion is if you are going to

10:38:38 look at it, lease or even something on a temporary basis, I

10:38:42 know you are going to have to look at the way that we do

10:38:45 our -- we optimize our schedules, our routes, and sometimes

10:38:50 it may not be the right spot for it in terms of refueling.

10:38:54 But on a temporary basis, you could probably get that done

10:38:57 fairly quickly.

10:38:59 There's a significant one down in -- not Port Tampa, near

10:39:03 the -- well, port Tampa Bay, I guess now, that just opened

10:39:08 up.

10:39:09 And that is close enough to our solid waste facility, down

10:39:16 in that area that you might want to look at that.

10:39:19 In addition, we are going to be opening up one I think in

10:39:22 April that is a new Hart CNG.

10:39:25 There's one near the airport that is currently up and

10:39:28 running, if I am not mistaken.

10:39:30 So there's a lot of facilities already open and running.

10:39:33 It may be something as simple as doing some kind of cost

10:39:36 sharing or buying, at a particular time, so that you can

10:39:40 fill up the CNG trucks, especially since we have a small

10:39:46 number right now, and as we build out, figuring out what

10:39:50 those routes are and figuring out if we can use and partner

10:39:53 with some of these other public entities so that we don't

10:39:55 have to reinvents the wheel on this and get more bang for

10:40:00 our buck.

10:40:04 Thank you.

10:40:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Are you finished, Mr. Snelling?

10:40:10 I assume you are.

10:40:11 >> Yes.

10:40:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Anyone in the public to speak on item

10:40:17 number 4, please come forward.

10:40:18 I see no one.

10:40:19 So we will go to item number 5.

10:40:23 Thank you very much for that report.

10:40:24 And I hope to see it coming up close to Hillsborough Avenue.

10:40:33 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Planning and development.

10:40:36 First item, I just wanted to note, because the motion has

10:40:41 two different parts to it.

10:40:43 But the second part was actually cleared up in November.

10:40:46 Mr. Cohen was the chair at that time, and he did make a note

10:40:51 in the transcript and had me confirm that the item about the

10:40:56 short term rentals that council had already made the motion

10:41:00 to change the seven-day provision to 30 days.

10:41:03 So I highlighted that just to maybe clear the second part of

10:41:06 the motion doesn't apply.

10:41:07 We were just talking about bed and breakfast.

10:41:18 In the handout, we had decided to come forward in a public

10:41:21 workshop setting because it's one of the previous

10:41:23 conversations we had about bed and breakfast, in particular

10:41:27 the concept of a couple of council members, maybe expanding

10:41:30 it into single-family districts as well.

10:41:32 This is the handout that I gave you last May that gave

10:41:36 you -- this is a spin-off from the changes that you had made

10:41:40 to the bed and breakfast definition, rooming house

10:41:44 definition, dwelling definition.

10:41:46 We had a whole list of definitions that we tweaked making

10:41:51 them more in line with the definitions of different units

10:41:53 and housing, defining transient and nontransient, so I

10:41:58 included the former definition, and then the current

10:42:01 definition which you all adopted in 2013.

10:42:07 And I had noted where bed and breakfast is permitted.

10:42:10 I think there was the idea originally that maybe we had

10:42:13 prohibited bed and breakfast in the city which is not

10:42:15 accurate.

10:42:16 They are allowed by right in residential office district,

10:42:21 office district, commercial, certain Ybor districts, Channel

10:42:25 District, Seminole Heights district.

10:42:27 And they are -- special used a might have special use in

10:42:32 multifamily districts.

10:42:33 So they are prohibited in the city but only in single-family

10:42:38 districts.

10:42:39 And then I included the special use criteria as well.

10:42:42 And this does apply again to the multifamily district.

10:42:45 And the one thing that I noted at the bottom, which this was

10:42:53 odd to me because if you have an RS-50, it allows 50 units

10:42:58 per acre, very high intensity district.

10:43:00 The special use criteria would only allow you to have three

10:43:05 units.

10:43:07 My suggestion would be let it to default which allows the

10:43:14 rental and then decide how many can fit in there.

10:43:18 The second page, second set of pages I gave you, the

10:43:25 original one I gave you last year was from 2012.

10:43:28 I updated 2013 although none of the language actually

10:43:32 changed.

10:43:32 But I highlight add couple items for you.

10:43:34 Transient public lodging establishments is where the bed and

10:43:37 breakfast falls in.

10:43:46 They have to be licensed as a public lodging establishment.

10:43:49 So it's a single-family home structure where you have

10:43:52 someone living there full time as their home, but they are

10:43:56 renting a commercial business.

10:43:57 It is a home-based hotel.

10:44:00 These the best way I can describe it.

10:44:01 So it is licensed by the state.

10:44:04 And there are certain regulations that go along with that.

10:44:10 What they call a bed and breakfast inn, and modified for

10:44:18 certain public lodging establishments, provides

10:44:20 accommodation, and this is generally offered by bed and

10:44:24 breakfast, and which is recognized as bed and breakfast and

10:44:28 in the community by which it's situated or by the

10:44:32 hospitality industry.

10:44:33 The item before you at this point is whether or not to --

10:44:39 the discussion where it led was whether or not to allow it

10:44:41 in single-family district.

10:44:42 And I talked to you in the past about provisions in the

10:44:44 building code and the fire code, and I did verify with the

10:44:48 fire marshal's office previously and I noted previously when

10:44:51 you switch to whether it's home based, hotel, bed and

10:44:56 breakfast, there is a cost associated with running a

10:44:59 sprinkler system and installing it, and then the building

10:45:02 code for a typical 2 bedroom 2 bath house, the occupancy

10:45:08 load isn't going to change so there wouldn't be too many

10:45:11 building code changes if at all.

10:45:13 You will have a sprinkler system that allows it to be put

10:45:16 in, and accommodate the parking ratios for the use itself.

10:45:21 You will have a small parking lot that matches up with the

10:45:24 units.

10:45:26 The number of units that you have.

10:45:29 The policy decision that council has to make about --

10:45:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Excuse me a second.

10:45:34 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Before you go on to any of the other

10:45:40 issues, can we talk about the sprinkler system issue for one

10:45:43 second?

10:45:50 I was at the last Suncoast League of Cities he had meeting

10:45:53 that was held in Temple Terrace, and Karl Nurse from

10:45:59 St. Petersburg brought this up at the meeting.

10:46:00 And we were talking about the requirement for commercial

10:46:03 buildings and restroom fitting of older buildings with the

10:46:09 new sprinkler codes from the state.

10:46:13 Well, actually, national fire standard, fire safety -- that

10:46:20 one -- and how difficult it is.

10:46:22 And in St. Petersburg according to what he had said that

10:46:27 date seeing a decrease in the numbers of redevelopment of

10:46:31 buildings, because it's so onerous of a requirement, and I

10:46:38 would extrapolate that to apply here, because, you know, you

10:46:43 are the traditional profile of who is going to open a bed

10:46:47 and breakfast, and, you know, a couple that either retired,

10:46:51 or, you know, want to maybe live and work together and

10:46:58 utilize maybe in a historic district like Ybor a home that

10:47:03 they renovated, the addition of putting in a sprinkler

10:47:07 system in a historic property in a house, and you are going

10:47:12 to find is where the bed and breakfast generally congregates

10:47:16 in a historic district is so astronomical that it is beyond

10:47:23 reasonable to comply.

10:47:25 So is there any information that you can impart about the

10:47:32 current sprinkler code and historic buildings or

10:47:36 retrofitting existing buildings to meet that code?

10:47:42 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Well, I am not the fire marshal so -- I

10:47:46 can tell you that there has been that rub over time with

10:47:50 historic rehabilitation, period, for commercial buildings,

10:47:53 just like you mentioned that they talk about in St. Pete.

10:47:56 It can be expensive to redo systems, especially in buildings

10:48:01 that you are trying to reoccupy.

10:48:05 Tens of thousands.

10:48:06 That's write was going to get to on the bed and breakfast

10:48:08 because there's such a cost associated with it, and where

10:48:11 are you going to get your return?

10:48:13 You are not going to get it in the central part of the city

10:48:16 or the northern part of the estimate you are probably going

10:48:18 to get it in the more expensive area.

10:48:20 That's one thing I want to talk about in the policy

10:48:23 decisions.

10:48:23 But I can tell you that we can't write a rule that exempts

10:48:26 them from it.

10:48:28 It's a state rule, that fire marshal has to enforce.

10:48:33 If you want to change that rule, it's at a different level.

10:48:36 It's not locally.

10:48:38 It is what it is.

10:48:41 Until someone much higher than us changes it.

10:48:44 So those that.

10:48:47 If you want a full detail on it, then I would ask the fire

10:48:50 marshal to come and explain the rules.

10:48:52 >>LISA MONTELIONE: And I'm thinking what Councilman nurse

10:48:57 is talking about at that meeting was doing just that, and in

10:49:03 getting the Suncoast League of Cities to work with the

10:49:05 Florida League of Cities to see if there was any

10:49:10 modifications that could be made to accommodate the historic

10:49:16 buildings or older structures for redevelopment.

10:49:19 >>CATHERINE COYLE: That's the level it has to happen.

10:49:27 >>YVONNE CAPIN: That's exactly where I was going with the

10:49:30 sprinkler system because we heard about it.

10:49:32 And the cultural assets committee looked into the bed and

10:49:35 breakfast and actually that was one of our recommendations

10:49:38 back in, oh, my gosh, well over a year ago, was to look at

10:49:44 bed and breakfasts in the city.

10:49:46 The other thing is that this is a law that is in place at a

10:49:57 higher level.

10:50:01 And we know that bed and breakfasts are going to find their

10:50:04 way into historic districts.

10:50:06 And we have older homes, older buildings there.

10:50:09 And as part of encouraging bed and breakfasts in these

10:50:14 areas, maybe we could look at, as a county, and the city

10:50:20 with incentives as we see the facade grants, and maybe we

10:50:27 can offer help to these places that do want to open a bed

10:50:35 and breakfast in a historic district, offer a grant or

10:50:40 grants to help.

10:50:41 But that would have to be, you know, the county and the city

10:50:45 together in that.

10:50:47 And that would be one way of encouraging our historic

10:50:51 tourism, which is a very high dollar volume tourist, and

10:50:57 hopefully we can work on that.

10:50:59 But that's the only other Avenue.

10:51:02 It is very expensive to do.

10:51:04 And it's discouraging local private enterprise from taking

10:51:12 place.

10:51:12 And maybe we could look at -- I know that Baltimore has --

10:51:21 it's a very dense city, and they have dozens and dozens of

10:51:26 bed and breakfasts in their core.

10:51:28 And I would like to see how St. Augustine dealt with the

10:51:34 sprinkler system and their bed and breakfasts, and if there

10:51:39 was any help from their municipalities in order for these

10:51:43 enterprises to take place.

10:51:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Anyone else at this time?

10:51:48 Continue.

10:51:48 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Just to wrap up quickly, and I will

10:51:54 leave it to the public.

10:51:55 I think there are a couple people who want to speak about

10:51:58 it.

10:51:58 But back to the single-family, it is purely a policy

10:52:01 decision.

10:52:01 But I would get the council to think about is our

10:52:05 single-family districts are geographically the largest in

10:52:08 the city.

10:52:08 They cover wide areas, all different types of neighborhoods.

10:52:13 And different types of streets and capacities on those

10:52:16 roadways.

10:52:16 Most of them have a lot of local roads going through them.

10:52:20 So I have in the past mentioned maybe if you are looking at

10:52:22 expanding in single-family that if we are talking about

10:52:28 historic district is to highlight those areas where we think

10:52:33 they would be going.

10:52:33 I don't know so much that you will have bed and breakfast in

10:52:36 the middle of the neighborhood in the central part of the

10:52:39 city that's not near water or any areas of the city that the

10:52:42 would draw tourists.

10:52:43 So there may be opportunities to try to scale it down a

10:52:46 little bit and low for the appropriate places to allow it.

10:52:50 If it's carte blanche across the city, I think quite frankly

10:52:54 with the cost associated that are on the table now of

10:52:56 converting these buildings, I really think the only place

10:52:59 you are going to get that is where land and buildings are

10:53:02 worth more, people have more expendable income to make those

10:53:06 conversions and those might be the areas that people don't

10:53:09 wants them.

10:53:09 I'm talking about South Tampa versus central Tampa,

10:53:12 essentially.

10:53:15 I just want council to be cautious of where we think we want

10:53:18 to go with it, what areas of the city we actually think we

10:53:21 are trying to allow the core, and then just finishing with

10:53:25 my recommendation on the multifamily, I think it makes total

10:53:27 sense to fix that particular piece, because the numbers

10:53:32 don't match.

10:53:33 Which would free up the multifamily districts

10:53:39 That's all I have.

10:53:40 I believe there are members of the public.

10:53:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Mr. Suarez?

10:53:43 Thank you, Mrs. Capin.

10:53:46 >>MIKE SUAREZ: You made a pretty realistic case in what it

10:53:51 would actually mean if someone wanted to open a bed and

10:53:55 breakfast.

10:53:56 The life safety issue that the state controls such as

10:53:59 sprinkler systems, it will make it extremely expensive no

10:54:03 matter where you are at.

10:54:04 The question I had, though, let's say we allow bed and

10:54:09 breakfast, on a limited basis, let's say, and places that we

10:54:14 might think have an interest in Ybor City or Seminole

10:54:16 Heights or somewhere along the water.

10:54:19 How does that change in terms of parking requirements when

10:54:23 they are now in a single-family district?

10:54:26 I could see where even if you have, you know, three

10:54:30 locations -- excuse me, three units in a particular location

10:54:35 that, you know, unless we are going to have extensive trains

10:54:40 it now, it's going to be difficult for them to get there

10:54:42 other than through cabs or other public services.

10:54:47 So how does that change their requirement as now a business

10:54:51 in a single-family district for parking requirements?

10:54:55 Because we already have issues with a lot of the historical

10:54:58 areas.

10:54:59 You know, places that have tight parking, you know.

10:55:05 And I will give a great example.

10:55:07 If you go somewhere near the corner of Bay to Bay and

10:55:10 MacDill, and you go to that neighborhood, which would

10:55:12 probably be a neighborhood that would be close enough to the

10:55:16 Bayshore and to some of the other amenities, that parking is

10:55:23 awful for people who are in single-family homes.

10:55:25 And there are some multifamily around there, too.

10:55:28 How does that affect if we decide to make this change?

10:55:33 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Well, the general parking table applies

10:55:36 city-wide.

10:55:36 There are specific parking tables for Ybor, Seminole

10:55:39 Heights, Channel District and downtown, that has different

10:55:42 ratios.

10:55:42 But the general requirement city-wide, doesn't matter what

10:55:46 district you are in.

10:55:46 It's the use that you have, that you are actually putting

10:55:49 in.

10:55:49 So in the case of having a bed and breakfast with five or

10:55:52 six units you are going to have an equal number of parking

10:55:55 spaces.

10:55:56 So you are going to have what could be a 50 or 60-foot lot

10:56:00 with a house on it, then you have to figure out how to put

10:56:02 the parking.

10:56:03 You have got to put in some type of parking lot.

10:56:06 Even on a residential scale, some type of parking lot.

10:56:10 You are going to have to have a handicapped space as well.

10:56:13 So the constraints of the property might also not allow that

10:56:18 type of conversion.

10:56:20 The parking ratio is something that we control locally,

10:56:23 though.

10:56:24 So in the past, we have seen with certain uses where council

10:56:26 has gone in and said, okay, let's review parking requirement

10:56:30 across the board.

10:56:31 Then he would get into an issue where you have parking

10:56:35 especially intruding into the neighborhood and we have

10:56:38 residential parking permit area.

10:56:39 So there's an answer for things, but I just want us to think

10:56:43 a little ahead --

10:56:45 >>MIKE SUAREZ: If I'm --

10:56:50 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Especially if it's buried in a

10:56:51 neighborhood.

10:56:52 >>MIKE SUAREZ: And if we are looking at a true bed and

10:56:55 breakfast where there's a manager on-site providing hot

10:56:58 meals to someone -- I mean, we had this discussion ad

10:57:00 nauseam in terms of what a real bed and breakfast really

10:57:04 is -- the difficulty is, how do you actually run the

10:57:07 business?

10:57:08 Once you have a property that you think might want to be a

10:57:12 bed and breakfast.

10:57:13 If an historical district or a historical property,

10:57:17 something, the amount of time and money that you are going

10:57:20 to have to spend to meet the life safety issues that the

10:57:24 state requires, and in addition the parking requirement that

10:57:28 we require, it's going to be almost impossible for someone

10:57:30 to really set up a bed and breakfast in a single-family

10:57:34 area.

10:57:35 I mean, that's my guess.

10:57:37 You know, you do a thumbnail about what that cost is going

10:57:40 to be.

10:57:41 In addition to the house and whatever renovations you have

10:57:44 to do just to make it livable for people to come and enjoy

10:57:47 it as a bed and breakfast, then on top of that, all the

10:57:50 zoning costs that you are going to have to have when you

10:57:53 come back to us, because I think you mentioned special use

10:57:56 permit right now for single-family, correct?

10:58:01 >> No.

10:58:01 Prohibited.

10:58:02 >> Prohibited in the city?

10:58:06 >>CATHERINE COYLE: If you are going to go to single-family I

10:58:07 would say a special use.

10:58:09 A special 1.

10:58:10 They meet the two criteria, they get it.

10:58:13 >> Well, to actually make the parking amenable to meet our

10:58:19 planning guidelines.

10:58:20 I mean, it's going to be so many --

10:58:24 >>CATHERINE COYLE: That's my point because the predominant

10:58:26 district is a typical lot.

10:58:29 It's difficult to make meet the parking and all the

10:58:31 conversions, especially with the city generally speaking to

10:58:37 have that -- I think to fit everything on the land, my gut

10:58:41 feeling is that where it's going to happen are in the

10:58:44 districts with bigger property and the houses where you can

10:58:48 absorb for those costs because the houses are larger, they

10:58:50 are worth more, you can spend the money to convert it, newer

10:58:53 an area that's closer to the water and closer to other

10:58:56 things, 75 and 100 fat lots you can accommodate more.

10:58:58 >> Which section of the town usually has 75 to 100-foot

10:59:02 lots?

10:59:02 >> South of Kennedy.

10:59:06 >> Well, I was going to ask --

10:59:09 >> South of Kennedy.

10:59:10 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, chair.

10:59:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you.

10:59:14 Anyone else?

10:59:14 Anyone in the public care to speak on this item, item number

10:59:19 5?

10:59:33 >>MARGARET VIZZI: 213 South Sherrill.

10:59:35 It takes me a little longer to maneuver up here but I don't

10:59:39 have the pain at least.

10:59:41 Council, T.H.A.N. has been watching this very closely ever

10:59:43 since you began talking about it.

10:59:47 Of course, we haven't taken an official position because we

10:59:50 don't know what you are going to come up with.

10:59:53 But I will say that when it was brought up that it was hoped

10:59:57 that what is on the books now will be the way it stays.

11:00:03 As far as doing away with the sprinkler system, I think

11:00:08 that's in there for the safety of those who are in there,

11:00:13 the cooking, et cetera, not that you don't have cooking in a

11:00:19 home, but it becomes a small hotel.

11:00:26 So that's why I'm pretty sure that the state has put it on

11:00:30 the same regulations as the hotel.

11:00:35 But as far as the T.H.A.N. members, we are taking no

11:00:40 official position.

11:00:41 But when it was brought up in discussion, the feeling was

11:00:46 that it should stay the way they are.

11:00:51 And I know that if you change it, as Cathy just said, making

11:00:58 it S-2 would be very important because bringing the

11:01:00 neighbors in to bring us the issues would be very, very

11:01:07 important.

11:01:10 So that's all I can give you right now.

11:01:12 But we will be watching it very carefully along with all the

11:01:16 other things that are coming up, too.

11:01:19 So thank you.

11:01:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you.

11:01:20 Anyone else in the audience care to speak on item number 5?

11:01:24 I see no one.

11:01:25 We'll move to item number 6.

11:01:43 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Planning and development again.

11:01:45 I'll be brief.

11:01:46 I'm kind of emceeing this.

11:01:48 The document you have is not the code amendment.

11:01:50 It's the updated Westshore district, public realm master

11:01:54 plan.

11:01:55 I'm sending you a copy for reference.

11:01:57 I know it's been presented to you in the past, and I believe

11:02:00 Mr. Rotella came last year at least once to discuss it with

11:02:04 you.

11:02:05 Did start working on the update for this plan in late 2012

11:02:08 and all the way through 2013.

11:02:13 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Did you produce this?

11:02:16 >>CATHERINE COYLE: No.

11:02:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Westshore.

11:02:20 >>CATHERINE COYLE: It's from the Westshore Alliance.

11:02:22 I'm just giving it to you for reference in case you want to

11:02:24 work through it.

11:02:26 The code that's before you is the Westshore overlay district

11:02:30 already exists, the most recent amendment that's before you

11:02:34 privately initiated from the Westshore Alliance is -- the

11:02:39 information that's in the new regulations are derived from

11:02:42 that plan, and they deal with the public realm improvement.

11:02:46 So there are some tweaks in the dimensional standards of

11:02:49 sidewalks and so on, how those are tweeted.

11:02:52 There's not a massive change in the rest of the regulations.

11:02:56 A lot of clean-up just bringing it in line with the master

11:02:59 plan.

11:03:00 We have -- did hold a public meeting in December and I did

11:03:06 supply you with a list of attendees to that as well.

11:03:10 And Mr. Cohen is here to give you a presentation as well.

11:03:15 >>> Randy Coen, West Cypress street here on behalf of

11:03:26 Westshore Alliance and I serve as chairman of the master

11:03:28 plan committee.

11:03:29 We have a Power Point presentation but it's a rather brief

11:03:32 one.

11:03:33 And I'll make it as painless as I can and summarize the

11:03:36 changes that are in the overlay.

11:03:42 As Cathy said, what we are really doing is updating the

11:03:49 overlay to make it consistent with the master plan that you

11:03:52 had a presentation on last year.

11:03:53 There we are.

11:03:54 Basically we are just updating the overlay and really

11:03:57 dealing with the public realm area, that being public

11:04:00 right-of-way, et cetera, and the arrangement of streets.

11:04:02 This is actually, if you will, the guiding exhibit within

11:04:05 that master plan, talking about connectivity, trying to

11:04:09 influence pedestrian connection of areas, et cetera, and

11:04:13 that's what the overlay actually updates at this point.

11:04:16 Just to go back a little bit.

11:04:18 Overlay was originally approved in 2001, been amended a few

11:04:23 times.

11:04:23 It only applies to a limited amount of things.

11:04:26 First it only applies to new construction, major renovation,

11:04:30 or change of use.

11:04:33 More particularly it only applies to dense multifamily

11:04:36 projects and commercial properties.

11:04:38 That is land uses that have the ability for those things to

11:04:41 be constructed.

11:04:42 It does not affect single-family homes.

11:04:44 It does not affect single-family areas whatsoever.

11:04:47 So if you are building something new, it applies.

11:04:51 If you are renovating something more than 51% of its value

11:04:54 it applies.

11:04:55 And if you are changing use it applies to the extent that it

11:04:59 be reasonably applied.

11:05:01 And basically the overlay itself has always been set up with

11:05:05 four different types of roadways.

11:05:07 Pedestrian priority, which are basically the multi-lane

11:05:10 roads in Westshore that are not state roads.

11:05:12 Regional roadways which are the state roads in Westshore.

11:05:15 Local commercial streets.

11:05:24 Neighborhood streets.

11:05:25 These are not subdivision streets.

11:05:27 These are the other streets in the -- this does not apply to

11:05:32 subdivision streets themselves.

11:05:34 Basically, here is a lab at the streets.

11:05:36 As you can see the pedestrian priorities, which are the

11:05:39 non-state roads that are multi-lane primarily, state roads.

11:05:44 We have by the way in the regional roadways Columbus drive.

11:05:47 That's because we always heard of spruce street, Boy Scout,

11:05:51 Columbus drive.

11:05:52 It's hard to tell which is which.

11:05:54 We wanted to make this clear so we have Columbus drive into

11:05:57 the school.

11:05:57 >> Imagine that, a street with three names.

11:06:01 >> It's amazing.

11:06:03 And trying to find out the legal determination of one to the

11:06:06 other is a very fun thing.

11:06:07 Let me tell you.

11:06:08 Let's move on so we can go back to the slide.

11:06:16 Okay.

11:06:16 And talk about the local commercial streets.

11:06:19 Those are our two-lane streets in Westshore that are truly

11:06:21 commercial in nature.

11:06:22 And then neighborhood streets which are some of the

11:06:24 significant captain two lane streets but they are not

11:06:26 subdivision streets.

11:06:27 These are not streets within Beach Park or Bon Air or any of

11:06:31 the other neighborhoods within Westshore.

11:06:35 Basically, when you look at what we are really changing,

11:06:37 primarily we focus on sidewalks.

11:06:39 When you see the column, it shows wove ranges of sidewalk, 6

11:06:45 to 12 feet, 6 to 10, 5 to 8.

11:06:47 We have done extensive review of right-of-way in the area.

11:06:51 The feasibility of building sidewalks, as a matter of fact,

11:06:53 the City of Tampa is completing a complete street study on

11:06:56 Westshore Boulevard right now.

11:06:58 We have come up with proposals on specific sidewalks that we

11:07:03 believe are achievable, and that is basically Westshore

11:07:06 being specially treated with a 14-foot sidewalk, pedestrian

11:07:11 priority streets primarily 10 feet with 8 feet along on most

11:07:17 of the sidewalks.

11:07:18 I'm sorry, 8 feet on all the other streets.

11:07:23 Everything on Dale Mabry, those are actually 10-foot

11:07:27 sidewalks to give you an idea.

11:07:29 That's why regional corridors are 10-foot sidewalks.

11:07:32 Local commercial 6-foot sidewalks.

11:07:34 Neighborhood streets 5 to 6-foot sidewalks.

11:07:37 That's actually the city's current standard, depending on

11:07:41 the alignment of the sidewalk and its adjacency.

11:07:52 We are requiring trees both near the street and at the balk

11:07:56 sidewalk on Westshore.

11:07:58 We have got some exhibits to show you that.

11:07:59 So we'll have a nice tree canopy on the sidewalk along

11:08:03 Westshore.

11:08:04 All the other streets remain exactly as the code is today.

11:08:08 This is an illustration of Westshore Boulevard and what's

11:08:12 being proposed.

11:08:12 As you can see we have the street -- we have a buffer tree

11:08:20 which is actually on the backside of the sidewalk in

11:08:23 Westshore Boulevard.

11:08:24 The sidewalk would be 14 feet 10 inches.

11:08:26 The actual walkable area where you see those folks walking

11:08:29 is a clear 9-foot area.

11:08:31 We put 4-foot 10 inches from the curb to the clear walkable

11:08:35 area.

11:08:36 That's the tree, street furniture, trash receptacles, bus

11:08:43 stops.

11:08:43 So those are all put in and we have a very clear path for

11:08:46 sidewalks as well.

11:08:47 And another illustration just basically a planned view where

11:08:50 you can see we have the trees at 30-foot centers.

11:08:53 We stagger the ones on the buffer behind the sidewalk with

11:08:56 the ones that are up near the street curb.

11:08:58 So basically 15 feet so we can establish a shade canopy

11:09:04 which is very important to get people out of the cars and

11:09:07 walking up and down Westshore especially with shall the new

11:09:09 restaurants in Westshore, other developments along Westshore

11:09:12 and being anchored at both ends for regional mall.

11:09:17 We have a good opportunity to walk.

11:09:21 Most of the people are tourists and not those living here.

11:09:23 We have some shade, street furniture, shade structures

11:09:27 themselves.

11:09:28 I think we'll see a lot more people walking on Westshore

11:09:30 Boulevard and that is the goal of this particular

11:09:32 improvement.

11:09:33 This is just a typical plan, full, of construction of the

11:09:38 sidewalk.

11:09:38 It is very consistent with Kennedy.

11:09:41 The Kennedy overlay and the requirements of that.

11:09:43 The two rows of brick by the edge on the gutter.

11:09:47 Tree wells for trees themselves and a little bit of scoring

11:09:52 on the sidewalk to make it a little more interesting than

11:09:54 just having a big slab of concrete by itself.

11:09:57 This is a typical illustration of the other roadways,

11:10:00 whether they be priority pedestrian, regional, commercial,

11:10:05 or neighborhood, basically the same orchestration, same

11:10:11 buffer as normally required would be there as well.

11:10:15 The grass area between the cushioned the sidewalk.

11:10:21 Basically we are doing some other changes.

11:10:24 And one of them is we are strengthening the definitions in

11:10:27 the overlay talking about the building supply, front door

11:10:31 facing the street being connected to the street.

11:10:33 We provided some alternative for those buildings but we are

11:10:37 making that much clearer on Kennedy Boulevard as well as

11:10:41 Westshore.

11:10:42 So we are strengthening that a little bit.

11:10:44 Found out the overlay in the current establishment really

11:10:48 didn't speak specifically to facilities that provide gas

11:10:54 stations, et cetera, so we put in a good deal of information

11:10:56 on the orientation of gas pumps and how they work with

11:11:00 convenience stores.

11:11:02 We had an interesting situation where we had one principal

11:11:06 parking use in Westshore which is very unusual.

11:11:10 Principal parking is the use of the property, and we found

11:11:13 out the overlay really didn't address.

11:11:15 That so we put in standards for that which are exactly the

11:11:18 same thing as the Westshore overlay right now.

11:11:21 They are required to have a 30-foot setback from the

11:11:24 right-of-way, landscaping in that setback area.

11:11:27 Finally, we are talking about open space areas which on that

11:11:32 very first slide that when showed, the overall connecting of

11:11:36 places and sidewalks, we had small and large pedestrian

11:11:40 corners, if you will.

11:11:42 This is an illustration of where those would be at.

11:11:45 The small ones are 20 by 20.

11:11:47 The larger ones are 40 by 40 square foot corners, if you

11:11:50 will.

11:11:51 We provided a good deal of incentives for developers to do.

11:11:54 That we also provide for them to have development rights, 18

11:11:57 feet above the finished grade, if you will.

11:12:01 So we can have arcades, et cetera.

11:12:02 But they provide some interesting thoughts for people to

11:12:06 rest, to gather, and to have some interest along the way

11:12:09 walking.

11:12:10 And as you can see, basically all set up about a quarter

11:12:14 mile apart from each other to some extent a half mile

11:12:17 accessible of areas which are quarter mile pretty

11:12:21 comfortable walking distance for an individual.

11:12:23 So that in a nutshell is what we are really proposing in the

11:12:26 overlay.

11:12:26 It's not a significant amount of changes.

11:12:28 But the master plan allowed would be more detail in the

11:12:33 overlay and that's what we present to you today.

11:12:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.

11:12:37 I have Mrs. Capin and Mrs. Mulhern.

11:12:43 >>YVONNE CAPIN: (off microphone) and you're right.

11:12:46 I'm amazed at the amount of the people that are walking on

11:12:51 Westshore.

11:12:51 And I walk into the Walgreens on the corner of Kennedy and

11:12:56 Dale Mabry and they have an entire section of T-shirts and

11:12:59 all this other for tourists.

11:13:02 My concern -- and Westshore and Kennedy, what do we have for

11:13:09 that?

11:13:10 The safety factor of crossing those streets.

11:13:12 >> We have been working with the Department of

11:13:14 Transportation and the city.

11:13:16 As a matter of fact, you will see some improvements when the

11:13:19 D.O.T. moves forward this October with a resurfacing of

11:13:23 Spruce.

11:13:23 They are going to bring out a new set of standards for

11:13:26 crosswalks, et cetera, signal time for pedestrians, and we

11:13:29 are hopeful that it ultimately applies within Westshore,

11:13:34 really comes down to a funding issue for us.

11:13:36 If we can fund it we can do it.

11:13:38 We are very concerned about pedestrians, really led the

11:13:42 charge in the simulated brick paves for the crosswalks, that

11:13:46 tend to give you a better idea from the vehicle that

11:13:49 something is going on there, people are a little more

11:13:52 visible.

11:13:52 We have been dealing with the D.O.T., intensifying the

11:13:55 crosswalks from the standpoint of making pedestrians stand

11:13:58 out more in those crosswalks.

11:13:59 But because we have large intersections we still have a

11:14:02 problem of not a lot of time to get from point A to point B

11:14:07 across so we are working with that as well.

11:14:10 >>YVONNE CAPIN: And glad to hear that because I do watch

11:14:12 those tourists walking along the street.

11:14:15 And as I am driving along, and are right now with the

11:14:19 expressway being worked on, it's even more congested with

11:14:23 vehicles.

11:14:24 The other thing I was wondering about -- and I also wondered

11:14:28 when I go to the airport and I am leaving the airport or the

11:14:30 post office at the airport, and I think about our tourists,

11:14:35 new people coming into town, have you looked at these three

11:14:41 names for those streets?

11:14:43 And the confusion that it could bring to people driving a

11:14:47 rental car out of the airport onto Spruce?

11:14:50 And then it turns into Boy Scout, and then it turns into

11:14:53 Columbus because they are not on the right street, and then

11:14:56 coming --

11:14:58 >> Randy Coen: It is confusing.

11:15:01 It is something we would like to straighten out.

11:15:03 Wouldn't be part of the overlay but it's certainly on our

11:15:06 radar screen.

11:15:07 We have some way finding and some gateway opportunities as

11:15:10 well.

11:15:11 So certainly that's one of those things that it's confusing

11:15:14 to everyone including those of us that lived there all our

11:15:18 lives.

11:15:20 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I know it's not anything that was presented

11:15:22 today but when you brought up the three streets I did wonder

11:15:25 about that, about how our people, as you said, it true.

11:15:30 I'm afraid to exit on Spruce.

11:15:32 I'm not sure where I am going to wind up. Anyway, thank

11:15:35 you.

11:15:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I know where you are going to wind up.

11:15:39 You are going to wind up lost like all of us.

11:15:41 But anyway, Mrs. Mulhern.

11:15:45 Thank you, Mrs. Capin.

11:15:46 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.

11:15:48 That looks good.

11:15:49 I especially like the landscaping on Westshore.

11:15:55 I was flipping through, actually, I think it's the draft of

11:15:58 the city.

11:16:02 You might be able to answer it.

11:16:05 Ms. Coyle can probably answer it.

11:16:10 There's in red table 4-2 number 5 about sidewalks and it

11:16:29 says shall bend away from the street which isn't consistent

11:16:33 with what you showed us as far as having grass and tree

11:16:36 plannings.

11:16:37 >> Well, what we are doing on Westshore Boulevard is an

11:16:40 example, and we can go back to the PowerPoint for a moment.

11:16:51 Westshore Boulevard, we are talking about sidewalks

11:16:57 commencing at the back.

11:17:00 They actually do.

11:17:01 And this is the plan.

11:17:02 You can see the area behind the tree wells themselves.

11:17:07 Other areas of concrete come up to the back of the curb

11:17:10 itself.

11:17:10 And so we are creating that hybrid where we are using trees

11:17:13 and buffers.

11:17:15 We are using that area to be able to provide street

11:17:17 furniture which would be benches, trash receptacles, things

11:17:22 of that nature, and allows for a fair amount of the area

11:17:25 that a typical bus stop would use.

11:17:27 When we go to other areas of the street, we have the

11:17:30 opportunity between the back of the cushioned the sidewalk.

11:17:35 And that is a safety feature, full, for pedestrians.

11:17:39 I was involved in that master plan, Trent Green at the

11:17:43 University of South Florida were the authors.

11:17:45 Since I was the chair of the master plan committee I worked

11:17:48 very closely with him.

11:17:49 He was concerned and stated that in the fashion so to get

11:17:54 the maximum sidewalk where possible.

11:17:56 We found when we went through a right-of-way review that in

11:17:59 fact many areas we could provide a sidewalk of what the

11:18:03 desired depth was, without being right at the back of the

11:18:06 curb so we provided that exhibit and say the grass area

11:18:09 varied.

11:18:09 Many streets, wouldn't be any at all.

11:18:13 Some streets, we may found out in actual design that it's

11:18:16 better off to make the sidewalk a little larger, full, to

11:18:21 get rid of that space.

11:18:24 The overlay is moving more into practicality and reality of

11:18:27 what we can actually do.

11:18:29 He did not have the benefit of all the right-of-way with the

11:18:32 streets and making the master plan provisions, the master

11:18:37 plan concept.

11:18:37 >>MARY MULHERN: I think this is probably one of the most

11:18:41 important things, especially on Westshore.

11:18:45 You know, not necessarily on the less busy streets, but I

11:18:52 think I would like to see the grass, small grass area, where

11:19:01 there aren't trees cut out on the streets to be required.

11:19:08 I mean, that's the scariest thing when you are walking down.

11:19:12 You are a pedestrian and you are walking and you are forced

11:19:15 to be right next to, you know, really fast traffic.

11:19:21 You know, I'm sure that maybe that we can't do it

11:19:26 everywhere.

11:19:26 But as opposed to the norm being sidewalk going to the curb,

11:19:33 I think the norm should be that there is a buffer of grass

11:19:39 or trees.

11:19:40 >> Well in, Westshore Boulevard, what we have really is the

11:19:45 14-foot 10-inch sidewalk, the buffer area, which is what you

11:19:48 are concerned about, and so am I, where we have the street

11:19:53 trees, is almost 5 feet wide and we have some areas where we

11:19:57 have finished sidewalk up to the curb.

11:19:59 Really in between the trees.

11:20:00 So there are about 20-foot sections of concrete to allow the

11:20:06 benches, trash receptacle, newspaper racks, whatever, so

11:20:11 they are out of the walkable area, and where the folks are

11:20:13 walking on the illustration is meant to be a clean wide-open

11:20:17 9-foot wide sidewalk.

11:20:19 So that's really where the pedestrian path is, so we are

11:20:22 creating that buffer, and lowering the maintenance

11:20:24 requirement at the same time.

11:20:26 If you walk downtown, you know, you have a lot of 9 and

11:20:30 10-foot sidewalks downtown.

11:20:31 Unfortunately when you have trees, grates, benches,

11:20:36 furniture, you wind up with a walkable sidewalk that's 5 or

11:20:40 6 feet so we really pay attention to the walkable sidewalk

11:20:43 and keeping that as far away from the motorist on the street

11:20:46 as we can.

11:20:47 By the way on Westshore a complete street sweep, when they

11:20:52 bring that to you one of the things they are proposing is a

11:20:54 bicycle lane on Westshore Boulevard, which gives us another

11:20:57 4-foot separation of the car from the curb, from the

11:21:02 sidewalk and then from the bed so we wind up with about an 8

11:21:05 or 9-foot section from a travel lane on the street, and the

11:21:08 actual walkable sidewalk area.

11:21:10 So we are very in tune and we are very concerned about that.

11:21:15 The worst thing we could do is put in sidewalks in Westshore

11:21:18 and have them become dangerous because we have people and

11:21:21 cars too close.

11:21:22 >>MARY MULHERN: I totally agree with you but I don't

11:21:24 understand why this language is in there then, because

11:21:27 people are going to look at the development standards, and

11:21:29 it's going to say the sidewalk commences at the curb.

11:21:34 >> That's not the development standards.

11:21:38 That's the public realm master plan produced by USF.

11:21:41 The overlay standards are what we are talking, where we have

11:21:45 taken those concepts and put them into reality, which is

11:21:47 what the overlay revisions are doing.

11:21:49 >>MARY MULHERN: Okay.

11:21:50 I'm looking at Westshore overlay district development

11:21:53 standards.

11:21:57 I'm looking at the city's.

11:21:59 What we are being given.

11:22:00 >> Randy Coen: We can certainly change that language.

11:22:06 I was assuming you were looking at the document.

11:22:09 >> It's not reflecting your recommendations.

11:22:12 >>CATHERINE COYLE: And again, the Planning Commission, I

11:22:23 was going to ask when you make that motion to transmit that

11:22:26 we make any revisions based on comments of staff and City

11:22:28 Council prior to transmitting.

11:22:31 What we can do, that's a general statement.

11:22:36 We can add in a provision that says with the exception of

11:22:40 landscape per the plan, per the requirements, we can come up

11:22:44 with language specifically.

11:22:46 But we do want to direct them that at least the sidewalk

11:22:49 starts at the curb.

11:22:53 Where you create the interchange.

11:22:54 >>MARY MULHERN: But I don't think we want the sidewalk to

11:23:02 start at the curb.

11:23:05 We either do or we don't.

11:23:06 >> Well, we'll put language in here that it will commence at

11:23:10 the curb in those areas where there is not sufficient room

11:23:13 for sidewalks, where there are areas, where there is

11:23:16 additional room, we will start from the right-of-way line

11:23:18 and work our way back, if you will, and that will provide

11:23:21 that area.

11:23:23 >>MARY MULHERN: I think you might need to somehow define

11:23:26 how you determine if there's room or not.

11:23:38 >>CATHERINE COYLE: D.O.T. has their own manuals for all this

11:23:42 stuff.

11:23:43 These are like enhanced design requirements above and beyond

11:23:44 what the state transportation manual is.

11:23:46 The basic transportation standards from the state that we

11:23:48 actually enforce, that's where the standard comes from,

11:23:53 5-foot sidewalks, with a 1-foot strip next to the curb, or a

11:23:58 6-foot sidewalk because that one foot is not really

11:24:02 landscaping.

11:24:02 It's recovery area for a car.

11:24:04 >>MARY MULHERN: Where is the one foot?

11:24:08 In the street?

11:24:09 >> It's right on the sidewalk area.

11:24:12 >> That's not a city standard.

11:24:14 That is a basic Strander from the state.

11:24:16 >>MARY MULHERN: Right.

11:24:18 But we are creating new standards.

11:24:19 >> No, you are not.

11:24:21 You are creating standards for design purposes.

11:24:22 But in no way can we overlay, or take away from what the

11:24:27 standard at the state level is.

11:24:28 We still have to enforce that.

11:24:30 >> From a safety standpoint that's when we talk about

11:24:37 neighborhood streets would be 5 to 6 feet.

11:24:39 The D.O.T. standard which is adopted by the city as well as

11:24:42 safety standpoint is 5-foot sidewalk is permissible as long

11:24:45 as you have a minimum of a one-foot green space between the

11:24:50 cushioned the sidewalk and those areas where you do not have

11:24:53 that, you must have at least a 6-foot sidewalk.

11:24:56 That is a standard.

11:24:58 We are not invalidating that standard by the overlay.

11:25:01 We are trying to enhance it.

11:25:04 >>MARY MULHERN: And this wording doesn't do that.

11:25:07 So if we can change that.

11:25:10 >> We will take care of that.

11:25:11 >>MARY MULHERN: And then my question is -- I don't see on

11:25:14 the agenda that we are being asked to transmit this.

11:25:16 We are not being asked today to transmit this, are we?

11:25:20 This morning?

11:25:20 >> We come forward and bring forward the language that's

11:25:25 privately initiated and then we ask you to transmit it.

11:25:28 >> It doesn't say that on the agenda, though.

11:25:33 This is the first time we really looked at it.

11:25:37 It's a workshop.

11:25:44 I mean, I caught that just now.

11:25:46 I would like to read through this.

11:25:47 >> I'll explain the process again.

11:25:51 This comes up pretty much --

11:25:52 >>MARY MULHERN: No, I understand the process.

11:25:54 I understand the process.

11:25:55 I'm just saying it didn't say transmittal.

11:26:00 And normally, I think normally we do these at our night

11:26:07 meeting.

11:26:09 >>CATHERINE COYLE: No, you don't.

11:26:10 You do it during the day.

11:26:11 >>MARY MULHERN: This is not --

11:26:13 >> This is not a hearing to adopt it or anything.

11:26:16 You will have two public hearings on it at a later date.

11:26:18 >>MARY MULHERN: Listen, I know about transmitting things to

11:26:22 the Planning Commission.

11:26:23 And I like to transmit something that when I know what it

11:26:27 is.

11:26:27 And this is pretty big and we didn't even -- just get a copy

11:26:33 of this.

11:26:34 >>REBECCA KERT: Legal department.

11:26:35 This is a little bit different than a city-initiated

11:26:40 transmission.

11:26:42 Because it's privately initiated they have the right to have

11:26:46 it considered by the commission.

11:26:49 I don't know what the timing issue is.

11:26:52 If they are able to request some additional time.

11:26:55 But it's ministerial and it's going to go to the Planning

11:26:59 Commission and then come back to you.

11:27:01 But this is not city initiated.

11:27:03 It's privately initiated.

11:27:04 >>MARY MULHERN: Mr. Cohen, and Ms. Coyle, I guess, a

11:27:15 question for you.

11:27:16 Can we change that language before we transmit this?

11:27:22 >>CATHERINE COYLE: That's what I was saying.

11:27:23 In your motion to transmit make part of the motion to tweak

11:27:27 whatever language we need to tweak.

11:27:29 And that's happened in the past, too, privately initiated

11:27:32 amendment.

11:27:33 >>MARY MULHERN: So before we close this hearing, Mr. Cohen,

11:27:35 can you give us the wording that you are recommending we

11:27:40 change?

11:27:42 >> We can try.

11:27:43 However, wail say is staff has given some additional

11:27:46 comments the day before yesterday so we will be

11:27:48 incorporating those into the section as well.

11:27:50 I would rather do it all at the same time to make sure that

11:27:53 I have consistency.

11:27:54 Normally --

11:27:58 >>MARY MULHERN: Wait.

11:27:59 You have recommendations?

11:28:00 Have we seen those recommendations from staff?

11:28:06 >>CATHERINE COYLE: The majority of the recommendations from

11:28:07 staff are literally just some clean-up items on how things

11:28:11 are referenced.

11:28:11 Normally we handle that in the public hearing process prior

11:28:15 to.

11:28:15 You will get a file version -- final version when it comes

11:28:18 back to you.

11:28:18 >>MARY MULHERN: So you will be -- your thought was the

11:28:24 staff recommendations were to do those when it comes back to

11:28:26 us after it goes to the Planning Commission?

11:28:29 >> Randy Coen: We'll do it before Planning Commission or

11:28:32 after Planning Commission.

11:28:35 >>CATHERINE COYLE: The Planning Commission processwise, but

11:28:37 the majority of changes that are coming from staff are not

11:28:39 really changes.

11:28:40 They are corrections and updates.

11:28:41 >> Well, whatever we are talking about right now.

11:28:47 >> I would like this as part of your motion.

11:28:50 >> That we go ahead and make those changes before we

11:28:53 transmit to the Planning Commission.

11:28:54 >>

11:28:56 >>CATHERINE COYLE: The only place you are reading that, Mrs.

11:28:58 Mulhern, I believe was for Westshore.

11:29:00 The rest of the tables don't actually have that.

11:29:02 So the only place that's mentioned is that particular

11:29:05 street.

11:29:05 And if you like I can come up with a correct reference for

11:29:11 that, if you would like.

11:29:12 >> And on Westshore we are commencing the sidewalk at the

11:29:16 back of the curb because of the planning and tree walls that

11:29:19 we are putting in, we are effectively moving the sidewalks

11:29:22 out but the back of the curb on Westshore itself.

11:29:27 >>MARY MULHERN: So the buffer, trees and grass, is that

11:29:36 going to be continuous?

11:29:42 >> Yes.

11:29:43 If we can go to the overhead for a moment.

11:29:45 This is the graphic we have for Westshore Boulevard itself.

11:29:49 These are the tree wells and the trees.

11:29:51 These are actually four foot, four and a half feet by 10.5

11:29:55 feet, three wells.

11:29:57 This is the 14-foot sidewalk from the curb all the way to

11:30:00 the right-of-way line.

11:30:03 It's followed by two rows of brick which are identical.

11:30:07 Different colors but identical.

11:30:08 This is a map of what we do on Kennedy Boulevard where we

11:30:11 have curbs.

11:30:12 We have brick.

11:30:12 We have sidewalks.

11:30:13 >>MARY MULHERN: So the brick is in the street?

11:30:16 >> No, the brick is on the backside of the curb.

11:30:19 >>MARY MULHERN: On the sidewalk part of the curb?

11:30:22 >> And what we have done is come in with our tree wells

11:30:25 planting areas, created a 9-foot walkable sidewalk, created

11:30:29 these indents to be used for other things that one would

11:30:32 physically find on a sidewalk, newspaper racks, trash

11:30:36 receptacles, perhaps some weigh finding signs, things of

11:30:41 that nature.

11:30:42 Effectively we have moved the pedestrians away from the

11:30:44 street on Kennedy Boulevard.

11:30:45 You have the same exact situation but much smaller tree

11:30:48 wells.

11:30:49 And a much narrower sidewalk.

11:30:51 So we are trying to mimic Kennedy Boulevard but trying to

11:30:54 provide it in a much more safe fashion.

11:30:56 >> What's the distance, the length between the tree wells

11:31:01 there?

11:31:02 >> Basically, that is about 25 feet, I believe.

11:31:07 If we go to the other side slide, I can tell you exactly

11:31:11 what that distance is.

11:31:15 Let's see, we have 18 and a half, 19 feet between the tree

11:31:21 wells themselves, so we have about a 19-foot area there

11:31:24 which is relatively short in length, very chopped up because

11:31:27 we have trees every 30 feet.

11:31:29 So not enough room to put furniture, et cetera, in.

11:31:35 Our sidewalk, is from the back of the tree well, and

11:31:37 commencing sidewalks, because we have no green space,

11:31:40 because of wanting that clean urban look at we have downtown

11:31:44 and along Kennedy Boulevard.

11:31:46 >> So does that mean that the entire length of Westshore

11:31:55 Boulevard for new development will have to be -- will have

11:32:01 to have -- they'll have to have trees based at that distance

11:32:08 on that sidewalk?

11:32:09 >> Yes.

11:32:10 >> Okay.

11:32:10 What about where you showed the grass areas?

11:32:15 Is it the same distance?

11:32:35 Those are on the other streets and they do not have that

11:32:37 note about sidewalks where it's possible.

11:32:40 >> Okay.

11:32:41 So how do you determine whether it's possible or not?

11:32:47 >> Very simple.

11:32:48 With the right-of-way location of the curb requirement to

11:32:51 the sidewalk, what we have done is basically has to be a

11:32:55 minimum of a 6-foot sidewalk.

11:32:57 Many roadways have wider sidewalks.

11:32:59 Safety standards from the D.O.T. and the gren book design

11:33:02 manual, which is what the City of Tampa utilizes as well, is

11:33:06 that a sidewalk either has a separation of a foot or more,

11:33:09 and it can be 5-foot in width or has to be a minimum of 6

11:33:13 feet.

11:33:13 We are not violating that standard.

11:33:15 We are actually embracing it and trying to get an actual

11:33:17 wider sidewalk.

11:33:18 Where there are areas where our right-of-way is such that

11:33:21 the sidewalk can be placed back in the back of the

11:33:23 right-of-way which is the current city practice anyway, we

11:33:26 are simply reinforcing that in this overlay.

11:33:30 >> Okay.

11:33:31 Hopefully, that's current city practice, like there's miles

11:33:35 and miles of roadways where we don't have that --

11:33:38 >> Historically?

11:33:40 Most definitely.

11:33:41 But I can tell you today that is the practice.

11:33:43 That is the requirement, as a matter of fact, in the olden

11:33:46 days going back many years.

11:33:47 A lot of folks simply didn't build sidewalks and it was no

11:33:50 big deal.

11:33:51 I can assure you your transportation division, when you

11:33:53 redevelop something, you are putting in a sidewalk that you

11:33:56 must have a paramount reason why a sidewalk cannot be

11:33:59 constructed there and then you are still paying for the cost

11:34:02 of that sidewalk so the city can utilize that to make there

11:34:05 are other sidewalks in place.

11:34:06 >>MARY MULHERN: Okay.

11:34:08 One more question about this.

11:34:09 I know I'm taking up a lot of time.

11:34:11 But I think this is really important.

11:34:15 Why can't we just take that sentence out of this?

11:34:22 If it's not in the other streets, rather than making it --

11:34:26 >> We simply eliminate it.

11:34:28 We'll eliminate that portion of it anyway.

11:34:30 >>MARY MULHERN: That's what I would like.

11:34:31 So I'll make that in the form of a motion.

11:34:34 >> Okay.

11:34:35 >>MARY MULHERN: To remove under table 4.2, number 5, the

11:34:40 sentence that says the sidewalk shall commend at the back of

11:34:45 curbs and extend away from the street, especially based on

11:34:48 the fact that the state standards say that anyway.

11:34:52 So I don't think it's necessary to be in this overlay or

11:35:00 development standard section.

11:35:01 >> It will be done.

11:35:03 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.

11:35:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Mrs. Montelione.

11:35:09 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you, sir.

11:35:11 And I agree with Ms. Mulhern.

11:35:14 We want to be able to protect pedestrians from the

11:35:19 fast-moving cars.

11:35:20 And I know there's a lot here.

11:35:23 And I also agree that the language in our code needs to

11:35:30 reflect some of the proposals that you are making in the

11:35:34 master plan, because if they are not in the code, it doesn't

11:35:39 matter it's in the master plan so we need to make sure this

11:35:43 is accurately reflected in any of the changes, whether it's

11:35:46 in the overlay district or whether it appears somewhere else

11:35:49 in the codes that affect development in Westshore.

11:35:53 But one of the things I want to say it's not part of the

11:35:57 code revision but it's on my mind since it was discussed

11:36:00 earlier during the presentation that Mr. Snelling made about

11:36:04 our sustain ability issues, and I see a lot in the plan that

11:36:12 calls for a lot of that.

11:36:14 And there's a lot of maintenance and a lot of mowing and he

11:36:20 talked earlier -- Angelo Rowe, quite some time ago, a year

11:36:25 or two ago when he gave clean streets presentation for the

11:36:31 MPO showed some instances in urban areas where swales were

11:36:35 put in.

11:36:36 They looked great.

11:36:37 They cleaned the stormwater.

11:36:40 We don't have a lot of runoff going into our stormwater

11:36:43 system for us to deal with and reduces the chemicals that we

11:36:47 need to clean the water afterwards.

11:36:48 So wherever we can encourage, rather than just the grassy

11:36:53 area, you know, between the street and the sidewalks,

11:36:56 install the swales would be hugely helpful to sustainability

11:37:04 efforts and improve our green environment.

11:37:08 The other things, she hit upon most of what I was going to

11:37:12 say.

11:37:14 Are and the other hot topic is, of course, pedestrian

11:37:18 safety.

11:37:21 And crossing these very wide streets.

11:37:23 And I was looking to see what the distance was through some

11:37:28 of the crossings.

11:37:29 And I know it's quite a great distance.

11:37:32 And if there is a requirement in transportation for

11:37:37 installation of the pedestrian traffic is signals, those are

11:37:44 the ones that say how many minutes -- how many seconds, not

11:37:49 minutes -- how many seconds you have to cross the street be

11:37:52 installed in the median, not just on either side of the

11:37:56 roadway, because you can't -- you know, I'm already wearing

11:38:02 bifocals.

11:38:03 You can't possibly see from one side of the street to the

11:38:06 other in some of these distances.

11:38:08 So if we could look at the transportation requirement to

11:38:13 include pedestrian signals placed in the medians to assist

11:38:19 folks crossing those very wide streets.

11:38:21 >> We can certainly look at that.

11:38:26 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Those are the only two things.

11:38:29 She touched upon -- or you touched upon, I think, the walk

11:38:33 plan that the city is finishing up and I'm sure one of those

11:38:36 recommendations is going to be not only bicycle lanes but

11:38:38 protected bicycle lanes.

11:38:39 >> Yes.

11:38:42 Where we can, yes.

11:38:43 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Because it's hugely important to the

11:38:46 safety.

11:38:46 And also help the pedestrians as well, if you have that

11:38:50 protected bicycle lane, you have another barrier between the

11:38:56 cars.

11:38:58 That's it for me.

11:38:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.

11:39:00 Okay.

11:39:00 Anything else?

11:39:03 Mrs. Mulhern, your motion?

11:39:05 >>MARY MULHERN: I would like to make a motion that we

11:39:09 strike that one sentence from -- I lost it.

11:39:16 Here it is.

11:39:19 Table 4-2 number 5, and the sentence to be struck is the

11:39:24 second sentence, the sidewalk shall -- crossed it out so I

11:39:31 can't find it -- sidewalk can commence at the back of

11:39:34 cushioned extend away from the street.

11:39:36 And then I would like to add to that, Councilwoman

11:39:39 Montelione's suggestion that you also add the recommendation

11:39:46 that pedestrian signals should be placed in the median where

11:39:52 possible.

11:39:52 Can we do that?

11:39:55 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Yes.

11:39:55 It's not really part of the overlay issue.

11:39:57 Those a public works infrastructure issue.

11:40:01 The reality is for some reason, a study shows that they had

11:40:04 to do it for a development.

11:40:08 We could discuss that but it's not normal for that to happen

11:40:12 as part of the project.

11:40:14 >>MARY MULHERN: You can't make it --

11:40:16 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Installing the pedestrian signals in a

11:40:18 median in the middle of the street?

11:40:21 That's usually what you would do as part of the development

11:40:24 and --

11:40:26 >>MARY MULHERN: All right, I'll take that out but for

11:40:29 information where could we start to address that?

11:40:33 >>CATHERINE COYLE: With transportation.

11:40:33 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I'll second your motion but I have

11:40:38 follow-up questions on that same issue.

11:40:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a motion by Mrs. Mulhern, seconded

11:40:42 by Mrs. Montelione.

11:40:43 All in favor of the motion?

11:40:46 Opposed?

11:40:46 Tampa ayes have it unanimously.

11:40:48 Now you know why America is overweight.

11:40:51 They don't like to walk.

11:40:53 Including me.

11:40:55 Mrs. Montelione.

11:40:56 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I do want to come back and address that

11:40:59 pedestrian signal.

11:41:00 Because --

11:41:03 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Rebecca asked me does the motion include

11:41:05 transmit?

11:41:06 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: No.

11:41:06 That was just a motion -- I haven't gone to the public.

11:41:10 I only had one speaker.

11:41:12 I don't know if there's others.

11:41:13 >>LISA MONTELIONE: When you mention the development

11:41:16 standards for development, new development or whether we are

11:41:22 redeveloping, address only improvements adjacent to the

11:41:28 development.

11:41:29 We require sometimes traffic signals.

11:41:34 We require turning lanes.

11:41:35 Sometimes they are left turning lanes.

11:41:39 Sometimes right turning lanes.

11:41:40 A turning lane if you are on one side of the street,

11:41:45 adjacent immediately to the property, a pedestrian signal

11:41:55 isn't going to be just a left lane turn.

11:42:00 >>CATHERINE COYLE: The requirements to add traffic signals

11:42:03 where they are warranted are all derived from a traffic

11:42:06 study so it's actually done as part of a development.

11:42:09 They are not a basic development standard that you have to

11:42:11 put one in when you are adjacent to one.

11:42:15 >>LISA MONTELIONE: That's where we run into problems

11:42:16 because if we don't start addressing those standards and

11:42:21 requiring those kinds of safety infrastructure elements to

11:42:25 be put in, then we are going to continue to have the same

11:42:30 problems we are having now.

11:42:31 >> My point is regulation of that is not in the overlay

11:42:36 district.

11:42:36 This is simply a design overlay for how property develops.

11:42:39 What you are really talking about is how the city directs

11:42:44 its money to spend on certain things.

11:42:46 Because even if they have to put in lanes --

11:42:49 >> What would prevent us, Mrs. Coyle, from putting in an

11:42:52 overlay?

11:42:52 Is there any restriction, regulation, any --

11:43:01 >> Which development, the one that's on the corner?

11:43:03 >> Well, which developer pays for undergrounding TECO

11:43:10 utility lines, which we usually waive anyway.

11:43:14 Kennedy Boulevard is part of that standard.

11:43:16 I mean, the entire section of roadway when you underground

11:43:21 utility lines.

11:43:23 >>CATHERINE COYLE: You are talking about putting in a

11:43:25 pedestrian signal for the general public within the public

11:43:27 right-of-way --

11:43:31 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Right turn lanes also?

11:43:33 >> Yes, about that you left turn lane is being put in for

11:43:36 the traffic from that development, the particular

11:43:39 development.

11:43:40 >>LISA MONTELIONE: And the pedestrian signal would be to

11:43:42 handle the pedestrians crossing the street that are

11:43:46 generated by that development.

11:43:47 If we put in like a 200 unit or 2,000 unit apartment

11:43:52 complex, or be 50,000 square foot commercial building, there

11:43:59 are going to be people who are working object living there

11:44:02 who want to cross the street, not just cars who are parked

11:44:05 in the parking lot for people driving to that location.

11:44:11 >> I don't disagree with that. I guess the difference is

11:44:13 those things, the left turn lane, those are things that are

11:44:16 warranted.

11:44:17 They are warranted after a study, and the study determines

11:44:20 what is warranted.

11:44:22 Everyone has to put in a left turn signal.

11:44:28 When the development is causing the need for them, but there

11:44:31 has to be that demonstrated, and that's the difference.

11:44:33 I don't think anyone is saying the idea is not well taken.

11:44:37 It's just not well taken to place unilaterally in an

11:44:40 overlay.

11:44:41 It's something you need to talk to transportation about.

11:44:44 >>LISA MONTELIONE: So maybe somebody needs to explain to me

11:44:46 and to everybody else why the capacity only applies to cars.

11:44:50 Because people occupy that building or they occupy that new

11:44:56 residential structure, and those people are getting to and

11:45:00 from that office complex or that residential complex by

11:45:06 foot.

11:45:07 That's capacity.

11:45:08 >>REBECCA KERT: I'm not in a position to argue that point

11:45:16 and I am not trying to argue that point.

11:45:17 This is a privately initiated overlay.

11:45:20 And even if it wasn't a privately initiated overlay, that is

11:45:24 still something that you do -- if you are not happy with

11:45:30 shall the way studies are being conducted, then that's a

11:45:33 fair discussion to have.

11:45:34 It's not this discussion.

11:45:35 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Okay.

11:45:37 So outside of this discussion, I guess we should initiate a

11:45:42 workshop, because staff reports don't seem to provide us

11:45:46 enough time to delve into an issue as I learned last week.

11:45:52 So I would make a motion that we schedule a workshop.

11:45:55 And let me look at the calendar.

11:45:57 Oh, do we want to do that outside of this after we pass

11:46:01 this?

11:46:02 Okay.

11:46:03 So let's get to that and then I'll look at the dates.

11:46:06 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you.

11:46:06 Anyone else in the public care to speak on this item, item

11:46:09 number 6?

11:46:12 That has not spoken?

11:46:13 Oh, my gosh.

11:46:15 You have spoken.

11:46:19 >>MARGARET VIZZI: Not on this issue.

11:46:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I know, I know, I know.

11:46:22 >>MARGARET VIZZI: 213 South Sherrill.

11:46:25 The Westshore neighborhood improvement committee.

11:46:27 I chair that committee and have for many, many years.

11:46:31 Westshore Alliance has come to us for, I would say, two

11:46:36 years ago, to tell us they were doing this, and to get input

11:46:41 from us, which they did.

11:46:44 And the one thing that just came up finally was bike lane,

11:46:48 because the study is being proposed.

11:46:57 As far as the issue coming out of the airport -- and I know

11:46:59 it has nothing to do with this, but I complained about that,

11:47:05 the citizens committee for the airport.

11:47:07 They didn't even have State Road 60 on those signs.

11:47:11 They finally put 60 but said they cannot put Kennedy.

11:47:16 And don't ask me why.

11:47:17 They named Spruce.

11:47:18 They named cypress.

11:47:19 But they can't put Kennedy Boulevard.

11:47:22 I don't understand it either.

11:47:23 But it's so important that they do that.

11:47:26 But that's just an aside.

11:47:28 Basically, we wanted to let you know that they have come to

11:47:31 us.

11:47:34 Some of your comments I can agree with.

11:47:36 So that was my main purpose in being here.

11:47:40 The neighbors, residents who live around there have known

11:47:43 this is going on.

11:47:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you.

11:47:45 Anyone else in the audience care to speak on item number 6?

11:47:50 Motion from council.

11:47:51 Mrs. Capin.

11:47:53 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I agree with the motion.

11:47:55 My only side is that twice it was commented that the bicycle

11:47:59 lane would be a buffer for the pedestrians.

11:48:01 And I would hate to be a bicycle to be the buffer for

11:48:04 pedestrians.

11:48:05 With a car.

11:48:06 Anyway --

11:48:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: You move item number 6 for transmittal

11:48:13 based on where the changes before the Planning Commission

11:48:16 that were adopted that Ms. Mulhern made.

11:48:20 I have a motion by Mrs. Capin to transmit for the changes

11:48:24 that were made, seconded by Mr. Reddick.

11:48:27 All in favor of the motion please indicate by saying aye.

11:48:29 Opposed nay.

11:48:30 Motion passes unanimously.

11:48:32 Thank you all very much.

11:48:33 I appreciate it very much.

11:48:36 Okay.

11:48:45 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Could I do a wrap up?

11:48:47 The City Council made amendment, nine or eleven of them that

11:48:50 you made for me to put in the January cycle and I would like

11:48:53 to request that we schedule the workshop for those in May.

11:48:55 >>LISA MONTELIONE: He would don't have any topics for

11:49:01 discussion yet on the May 22nd workshop date.

11:49:04 >> Yes.

11:49:08 >>LISA MONTELIONE: So I will motion that the city initiated

11:49:12 amendment to the comprehensive plan come to us in the

11:49:14 workshop session on May 22nd.

11:49:16 >> If you could clarify City Council initiated.

11:49:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a motion by Mrs. Montelione, a

11:49:23 second by Mrs. Capin.

11:49:26 All in favor of that motion?

11:49:27 Opposed?

11:49:28 The ayes pass unanimously.

11:49:31 Mrs. Montelione.

11:49:32 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I had it also brought to my attention by

11:49:37 Mr. Shelby that on the 24th we have a workshop scheduled

11:49:43 for discussion of transportation impacts relating to

11:49:47 rezoning and the development permit process.

11:49:50 So if we could add the issue that was brought up today about

11:49:56 addressing capacity standards as related to traffic studies

11:50:01 being conducted for development, new development or

11:50:05 redevelopment of property to that 24th workshop.

11:50:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Motion by Mrs. Montelione, seconded by

11:50:14 Mrs. Capin.

11:50:15 Discussion by council members.

11:50:16 Mrs. Capin.

11:50:18 >>YVONNE CAPIN: The date on that again --

11:50:20 >>LISA MONTELIONE: The 24th of April.

11:50:23 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Of April.

11:50:24 Yes.

11:50:25 And I second it wholeheartedly because we are talking about

11:50:28 widening sidewalks 10-foot.

11:50:29 That's going to increase people, hopefully increase people

11:50:32 walking.

11:50:33 Therefore, the study of how many people are walking on the

11:50:37 street is absolutely on target.

11:50:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Mrs. Mulhern.

11:50:41 >>MARY MULHERN: I'll support the motion.

11:50:45 And I wanted to suggest that also, I don't know how this

11:50:53 would work, but there's a street streets analysis going on

11:51:02 of Westshore Boulevard that that would be a recommendation

11:51:09 that you might want to see included in there.

11:51:11 So I don't know who is doing that analysis.

11:51:14 >>LISA MONTELIONE: That would be Jean Duncan, and probably

11:51:20 Calvin Thornton from transportation doing the complete

11:51:23 street study.

11:51:24 >>MARY MULHERN: So they would be here for the workshop

11:51:28 anyway.

11:51:28 >>LISA MONTELIONE: We might want to say that specifically.

11:51:32 That they do appear.

11:51:34 >>CATHERINE COYLE: It's actually myself and Melanie

11:51:36 Calloway.

11:51:43 They are part of development.

11:51:45 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I would ask Mrs. Duncan to be here as

11:51:47 well.

11:51:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have that added to the motion made by

11:51:50 Mrs. Montelione, seconded by Mrs. Capin with the addition.

11:51:54 All in favor of the motion?

11:51:56 Opposed?

11:51:56 The ayes have it unanimously.

11:51:58 Anything else?

11:51:58 Okay.

11:51:59 We go to receive and file.

11:52:02 >>FRANK REDDICK: So moved.

11:52:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Motion by Mr. Reddick to receive and

11:52:05 file, seconded by --

11:52:08 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Second.

11:52:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: -- Mrs. Montelione.

11:52:11 All in favor?

11:52:12 Opposed?

11:52:12 The ayes have it unanimously.

11:52:15 Information reports.

11:52:16 We go from left to right.

11:52:17 Mrs. Montelione.

11:52:18 >>LISA MONTELIONE: None, sir.

11:52:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you.

11:52:20 Mr. Cohen, anything?

11:52:21 Thank you, Mr. Cohen.

11:52:23 Mrs. Mulhern.

11:52:24 >>MARY MULHERN: No new business.

11:52:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you Mr. Reddick.

11:52:27 >>FRANK REDDICK: Yes, sir.

11:52:29 A couple, Mr. Chair.

11:52:31 one, I want to make a motion to have Tampa staff report on

11:52:41 February 6th, 2014, April 17th specifically to

11:52:49 related to alcohol establishments, like to move that to the

11:52:51 April 24th workshop agenda.

11:52:53 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Second.

11:52:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: Clarification.

11:52:58 Just so when the motion and the clerk amend the motion, your

11:53:03 request for the report that you are asking for on the

11:53:06 24th relates to special use processes, only with regard

11:53:09 to alcoholic beverages?

11:53:13 >>FRANK REDDICK: Right.

11:53:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a motion by Mr. Reddick.

11:53:16 I'm sorry, I missed the second.

11:53:19 Mrs. Capin.

11:53:22 Discussion by council members?

11:53:23 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Well, in conjunction with that -- and

11:53:34 I'm looking at the bullet points that are on the agenda for

11:53:37 the 17th, there was a related one.

11:53:42 They appear kind of out of order, I think, on the 17th

11:53:49 agenda, but the one that Councilman Reddick just moved, I'll

11:53:54 refer to it as the last bullet point on that page.

11:53:57 The one immediately before that, that says to provide a

11:54:00 report regarding the following impacts will be the cost of

11:54:02 the applicant before and after the change to the process,

11:54:06 change the time frame, and there are four items here, A, B,

11:54:11 C and D.

11:54:12 Those also relate to that discussion of the SU-2 process.

11:54:16 So we need to move that bullet point from the 17th to

11:54:20 the 24th.

11:54:24 Does that make sense?

11:54:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Is that a motion?

11:54:28 >>LISA MONTELIONE: That's a motion, yes.

11:54:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Motion by Mrs. Montelione, second by Mrs.

11:54:31 Mulhern.

11:54:32 Further discussion by council members?

11:54:34 All in favor?

11:54:35 Opposed?

11:54:36 The ayes have it unanimously.

11:54:38 Mrs. Capin.

11:54:39 >>FRANK REDDICK: We.

11:54:42 Voted on my motion.

11:54:44 >>LISA MONTELIONE: That's an amendment to my motion.

11:54:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Motion by Mr. Reddick.

11:54:48 Seconded by Mrs. Capin.

11:54:50 All in favor?

11:54:51 The ayes have it unanimously.

11:54:52 Anything else?

11:54:55 Mrs. Capin?

11:54:57 Mr. Reddick?

11:54:59 Mr. Cohen?

11:55:00 Mr. Suarez?

11:55:02 >>FRANK REDDICK: I want to make a motion to request the

11:55:04 legal department appear before council under staff reports

11:55:08 to give us an update on the Jackson house, the status of the

11:55:13 demolition and the status of the fines that have been

11:55:15 accumulated, and what's the city's position pertaining to

11:55:19 the Jackson house.

11:55:20 >> I second that.

11:55:22 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Motion by Mr. Reddick, seconded by Mrs.

11:55:25 Capin on a close vote with Mrs. In Montelione.

11:55:29 All in favor?

11:55:32 >>YVONNE CAPIN: You know, it came up, the Jackson house,

11:55:36 Lena Green Young brought it up as a condemned house in the

11:55:39 Heights but they brought that house back, and she

11:55:42 specifically stood before us and said, please, it takes

11:55:45 time.

11:55:46 And that's one of the things.

11:55:49 And also it would make a beautiful bed and breakfast.

11:55:53 >>LISA MONTELIONE: That it would.

11:55:55 >>FRANK REDDICK: Under staff reports.

11:55:58 That's what I am requesting.

11:56:00 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Motion by Mr. Reddick.

11:56:01 Second by Mrs. Capin on a close vote with Mrs. Montelione.

11:56:05 All in favor?

11:56:06 Of opposed?

11:56:07 The ayes have it unanimously.

11:56:08 >>FRANK REDDICK: Last, chair, I would make a motion to

11:56:11 present a commendation to Mrs. Pittman Lewis.

11:56:15 They are having a celebration in her honor as the co-founder

11:56:18 of the Harmony Wind Gospel Group in the State of Florida.

11:56:22 And that's to be presented to her on Sunday.

11:56:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a motion by Mr. Reddick, seconded

11:56:27 by Mrs. Montelione.

11:56:28 All in favor of the motion?

11:56:30 Opposed?

11:56:31 The ayes have it unanimously.

11:56:34 Mrs. Capin?

11:56:35 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Just a couple of things here.

11:56:38 One of the things I noticed driving on Wednesday and then

11:56:42 today, all the young people that are walking on streets and

11:56:47 with bags and visiting, and it's all because of the Florida

11:56:50 State Thespian festival.

11:57:02 They are staying at our hotels and spending money in our

11:57:06 core and getting to know our downtown core.

11:57:09 The other thing I want to talk about real quickly.

11:57:11 I got this copy of the Wall Street Journal dated March 22,

11:57:16 Sunday's Wall Street Journal, and this came from

11:57:19 Hillsborough County school board member Candy Olsen and the

11:57:23 note says, "Yolie, we are famous!"

11:57:26 And it's the Cuban sandwich.

11:57:31 And in there it's quoted Richard Gonzmart.

11:57:33 I want to tell you all, you know, City Council, one of the

11:57:36 things also the mayor said that was a quote that he said at

11:57:39 the State of the City, and it was like -- I am going to

11:57:53 paraphrase -- good luck is accompanied by boldness, and this

11:58:01 is what we have here.

11:58:02 We were very bold.

11:58:04 And I said Richard Gonzmart, and let's see, who else?

11:58:09 Andy Hughs from USF is quoted in the Wall Street Journal.

11:58:13 And the quote here says, While Florida old-timers debate the

11:58:17 origins of the Cuban, shops around the country are taking

11:58:22 the recipe and running with it.

11:58:24 Great coverage there.

11:58:40 The only other thing I have is that this weekend -- I'm

11:58:45 sorry, April 6th from 8 a.m. to 12 p.m., there's a free

11:58:50 shot clinic at the Humane Society of Tampa Bay on Armenia

11:58:55 Avenue.

11:58:56 And free vaccines and microchips.

11:58:59 So those April 6th, 3607 North Armenia Avenue, the

11:59:05 Humane Society of Tampa.

11:59:06 That's it.

11:59:07 Thank you.

11:59:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.

11:59:08 I am going to just say talking about Cubans, today is the

11:59:12 last time on behalf the chair will player at the tequila in

11:59:21 Ybor City and council today has a meeting at 5:01.

11:59:25 We are going to adjourn to be that in a few second.

11:59:27 If you want to hear some good music, tonight from 7 to 9 at

11:59:31 tequila.

11:59:32 Along those lines I received a memo here from Kathy Castor's

11:59:36 office, our Congresswoman, saying this Saturday, March

11:59:38 29th, this coming Monday, March 31st, Saturday from

11:59:42 10 to 4 p.m., Saturday are from 10 to 4, and Monday from 9

11:59:46 to 9 at the health center at 4810 north Himes Avenue,

11:59:52 enrollment for the sign-up for the affordable health care.

11:59:56 Anyone who wants to go is certainly welcome to come, from

12:00:01 Monday, from 9 to 9, and this Saturday from 10 to 4.

12:00:06 So these my public announcement.

12:00:08 Anything else to come before this council before we adjourn

12:00:11 to 5:01?

12:00:12 We stand adjourned till 5:01.

12:00:15 Anyone in the audience wants to speak to this council, all

12:00:18 505 of you?

12:00:19 Increasing every week.

12:00:20 I see no one.

12:00:21 We stand adjourned till 5:01.



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