Tampa City Council
Thursday, March 27, 2014
9:00 a.m. Workshop Session
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09:06:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: City Council is called to order.
09:06:04 The chair yields to Mr. Mike Suarez.
09:06:09 What a group we have here.
09:06:12 Look at that, Mr. Suarez.
09:06:13 Isn't that nice?
09:06:15 >>MIKE SUAREZ: It's not many times we get people that are
09:06:18 quiet out there.
09:06:19 Good morning, everyone.
09:06:20 It's my pleasure to introduce our invocation speaker today.
09:06:23 His name is Garrett fish.
09:06:27 Come on up to the microphone.
09:06:29 He's a middle Madonna student and has been there since
09:06:32 second grade.
09:06:34 He enjoys all kinds of out door activity.
09:06:36 And when he's not making jokes, no time to make jokes today
09:06:40 here, okay?
09:06:41 He was selected by his religion teacher Mrs. Lou Ann Jones
09:06:45 because of his strong faith to command the attention of his
09:06:49 Ms. Lynn Jones is a Madonna graduate also.
09:06:54 She moved back to Tampa, returned to teach in the school
09:06:57 alongside some of her former teachers.
09:07:00 I won't mention any names.
09:07:02 And Garrett and Villa Madonna is here as part of their
09:07:13 visit, and will visit with the mayor later on and the police
09:07:17 of chief.
09:07:18 Please stand for the invocation and remain standing for the
09:07:22 pledge of allegiance.
09:07:23 >> Dear God, thank you for bringing us here today safely.
09:07:26 We ask for everybody to be home safely and for everybody to
09:07:30 have the wisdom to be able to get through this day.
09:07:33 We ask for your grace in your hands to help us through this
09:07:39 (Pledge of Allegiance)
09:07:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Is that Ms. Jones?
09:08:05 Maybe before we start, would you come to the mike?
09:08:07 I haven't said this to anyone in 16 years.
09:08:10 Please state your name for the record.
09:08:12 >> Stephani Vagas Estinova.
09:08:22 >> Her father was the catcher of the all-star team in 1950,
09:08:26 and he was the guy that taught me in Cuba, and he was a
09:08:35 great ball player at Jefferson and later on in life and he
09:08:37 was a very outstanding man, he and your mother, both -- your
09:08:41 mother, not his, and the only thing I regret is that he did
09:08:47 this instead of doing this.
09:08:49 And that means fastball and this means curve ball.
09:08:55 He called for a fast ball which I never had, and it wasn't
09:08:58 his fault because he was taking the signs from the bench and
09:09:02 I threw it.
09:09:02 And that was a mistake. They are still for the ball.
09:09:06 And that was many years ago.
09:09:08 But an outstanding young lady.
09:09:12 I have known her since she was a little girl.
09:09:15 And God bless you for what you do at the school.
09:09:17 >> Thank you.
09:09:19 I appreciate the young part.
09:09:20 Thank you.
09:09:21 [ Laughter ]
09:09:25 >>MIKE SUAREZ: She told me something that I didn't even
09:09:28 She has two daughters and one of them is named Miranda.
09:09:31 And I did not know who she named Miranda after.
09:09:34 Did you not tell me that will she was named after Charlie?
09:09:39 >> Yes.
09:09:43 I figured nobody should be called Vargas so my daughter is
09:09:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Well, Vargas is a beautiful name.
09:09:59 Thank you for naming her Miranda.
09:10:01 And both your mother and father are very intelligent people
09:10:08 and we all called up in Y-bore city.
09:10:12 Really it's Ybor City but it's Y-bore.
09:10:18 That's why we are confused.
09:10:19 Thank you very much.
09:10:20 We go to item number 1.
09:10:24 Roll call.
09:10:25 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Here.
09:10:29 >>FRANK REDDICK: Heremonth.
09:10:35 >>MARY MULHERN: Here.
09:10:36 >>HARRY COHEN: Here.
09:10:38 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Here.
09:10:41 The police chief for another year.
09:10:44 A month times 12.
09:10:45 >>FRANK REDDICK: Good morning, council.
09:10:58 It's my pleasure to stand here and present this commendation
09:11:01 to the Officer of the Month for the March 2014.
09:11:06 I am just going to call him Officer Craig and let the chief
09:11:10 pronounce that.
09:11:12 So, Chief.
09:11:13 >> CHIEF JANE CASTOR: I'm very honored to bring before you
09:11:19 today one of Tampa's finest, Craig Cimaszewski.
09:11:28 There will be a test on that afterwards.
09:11:30 Craig, as you can tell, is one of our canine officers and
09:11:33 has been here almost 12 years with the Tampa Police
09:11:35 Department and working very hard every night to keep our
09:11:38 city safe.
09:11:39 In the essence of time I will read you just a few of the
09:11:43 things that he has done every day, as I stated, he's out
09:11:47 there working hard and keeping all of the citizens safe.
09:11:52 Some time back he responded to a burglary in progress.
09:11:55 He was the first individual there, he and his canine partner
09:12:00 As they approached the residence they made an announcement,
09:12:03 on the front door, was about to release the canine and saw
09:12:06 the burglar run out the side of the residence.
09:12:08 He was able to run around and grab that suspect.
09:12:13 A short time later, he responded to a grand theft call where
09:12:17 there was some equipment stolen prior to his arrival.
09:12:23 It was learned that a witness obtained a good description of
09:12:26 the suspect, a vehicle and a tag number.
09:12:29 Craig obtained the information from the tag and saw that
09:12:31 there were three different addresses associated with that
09:12:35 suspect's vehicle.
09:12:39 He had ROC respond to one of the addresses in Temple Terrace
09:12:43 and he responded to the other two addresses in the Palm
09:12:45 River area.
09:12:46 After checking with negative results for the vehicle, he set
09:12:50 his car up in a position where it couldn't be seen so he
09:12:53 could do surveillance in the entrance of the apartment
09:12:57 complex where that tag came back registered to.
09:12:59 After a short time, suspect's vehicle arrived in the complex
09:13:04 and officer Cimaszewski entered the complex.
09:13:11 He located where the stolen property was in plain view
09:13:14 inside of that car, and then he backed off of the suspect,
09:13:19 came back to the vehicle, unlocked the door, at which time
09:13:21 he placed him under arrest and recovered all of the property
09:13:24 and gave that back to the rightful owner and the suspect
09:13:29 charged with grand theft.
09:13:31 Then the next day he heard via radio there was a subject
09:13:35 seen on video, partly owned by Transcore recycling.
09:13:40 As the units responded and checked around they didn't locate
09:13:43 anything or anyone out of the ordinary.
09:13:47 Believing that the suspect could still be in the area,
09:13:49 officer Cimaszewski and officer Arthur stayed on the scene.
09:13:53 They located the subject that matched the description just
09:13:56 outside of the property walking along the railroad tracks.
09:14:00 The video footage, they went back and reviewed it and it
09:14:03 revealed that indeed was the suspect that had been on the
09:14:07 property, and he also recovered a series of electric motors
09:14:10 that that suspect had taken from business.
09:14:13 He got a full confession from the suspect, and he was
09:14:16 arrested, charged with burglary auto theft.
09:14:19 Again the property was given back to the rightful owner.
09:14:22 Then just a few days later, officers responded to a
09:14:26 suspicious person call in the 200 block of west Woodlawn.
09:14:30 Upon arrival witnesses advised the suspected was trying to
09:14:33 gain entry into this house with a screwdriver trying to pry
09:14:36 open a window.
09:14:37 When challenged, the suspect fled on foot.
09:14:40 And officer Cimaszewski and his partner canine Lincoln were
09:14:46 able to track this individual for two blocks and place him
09:14:48 under arrest on west 26th Avenue.
09:14:50 He was apprehended and charged with attempted burglary.
09:14:54 And in recognition of his hard work and attention to detail,
09:14:58 directly affecting the arrest much three felony suspects,
09:15:02 all while continuing his daily canine duties, and canine
09:15:05 officer, and also for the outstanding work that he has done,
09:15:10 the canine unit is putting together a training facility, and
09:15:15 basically they are putting it together through donations and
09:15:17 through their hard work.
09:15:19 And Craig has built all of the apparatus for the obstacle
09:15:23 course in that canine training facility on his own time.
09:15:27 For everything that he does, he is being recognized, and it
09:15:31 is my honor to name him Officer of the Month for March 2014.
09:15:36 [ Applause ]
09:15:41 >>FRANK REDDICK: On behalf of Tampa City Council we would
09:15:48 like to present you this commendation being selected as
09:15:50 Officer of the Month for March 2014.
09:15:54 And we wish you the best.
09:15:59 >> Thank you.
09:16:18 On behalf vanguard we would like to give you a $25 gift
09:16:23 >> Joe Durkin, Bright House networks.
09:16:38 Well done.
09:16:39 From all your friends at Bright House, all of our services
09:16:46 for a month.
09:16:47 Thanks a lot.
09:16:47 >> On behalf of the Straz, I would like to give you tickets
09:16:57 to the event next Saturday.
09:16:59 >> Michael Kilgore, on behalf of the Gonzmart family,
09:17:11 Columbia restaurant group.
09:17:13 Thanks for your services.
09:17:14 >> Jill Latecki from Tampa Theatre.
09:17:23 Thank you so much for what you do. We would like to give
09:17:24 you an annual membership to the theater.
09:17:26 >> Frank DeSoto with Bill Currie Ford.
09:17:36 We would like to take this opportunity to thank the officer
09:17:40 for a job well done, present you with this watch.
09:17:44 And I think Jim has something for your partner:
09:17:54 [ Laughter ]
09:17:59 >> Representing Stepp's towing, on behalf of Jim, Judy and
09:18:03 Todd Stepp we would like to congratulate you on a job well
09:18:06 done and Lincoln, a small token of our appreciation for you
09:18:11 and gift certificate to Lee Roy Selmon.
09:18:22 >> And these flowers aren't really for you, it's for your
09:18:28 significant other.
09:18:29 And we are not talking about the dog.
09:18:32 [ Laughter ]
09:18:33 >>STEVE MICHELINI: I'm here on behalf of a couple of
09:18:42 different folks, but prestige photos would like to have your
09:18:46 portraits done and you can go at your convenience and
09:18:48 schedule that.
09:18:50 And Bibalo's cafe, that you can enjoy for lunch or dinner,
09:18:58 your choice.
09:18:59 And thank you for what you do.
09:19:01 >> I would like to say thank you to Mayor Buckhorn, City
09:19:13 Council, Chief Castor for the events that I participated in.
09:19:17 I feel fortunate every day to be a member of the Tampa
09:19:19 Police Department and to be on the canine unit.
09:19:22 This is a great unit.
09:19:23 I can toll you there's no more satisfaction than watching
09:19:26 our trainers train these dogs every day, and then getting to
09:19:30 deploy them on the various tasks that we do every day and
09:19:34 see them succeed so well.
09:19:36 I would like to say thank you to the citizens and business
09:19:38 owners that are here today and for the gifts associated with
09:19:42 this award.
09:19:43 Without your support, it would be very difficult to be
09:19:47 successful here at the Tampa Police Department as we are.
09:19:50 Thank you.
09:19:52 [ Applause ]
09:19:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Chief, now you know how hard it is to sit
09:20:15 on this dais once in awhile.
09:20:18 Thank you very much.
09:20:18 It's been an honor to have you here for what you have done
09:20:21 and what you continue to do on a daily basis for this great
09:20:25 We appreciate it very much.
09:20:27 I'm getting phone calls from the back from different guys
09:20:30 that I played ball with that there are relatives in the
09:20:34 audience and now I have to announce them, I guess.
09:20:36 If not, I'm not going to be able to go home.
09:20:39 So if you will stand up real quick.
09:20:46 Bob Brianna. Mr. Mike Vinitto played with me and we won two
09:20:52 championships, so everything he's telling you is half truth.
09:20:55 Tell him I said that. Don't worry -- you're buying this
09:21:00 Then we have Matthew Schoetz, my sister's grandson.
09:21:07 So at the end of the day with council's permission, I am
09:21:09 going to let you one at a time come quickly on your way out
09:21:12 and say your name on the mike so you can have it for your
09:21:16 records when you become a little older and outstanding
09:21:19 citizens and more than likely take our place here one day.
09:21:22 Thanks so much.
09:21:25 [ Applause ]
09:21:27 And please, no more phone calls.
09:21:30 Presentations, commendations.
09:21:32 The next one also by Mr. Reddick to Lenoir Russell.
09:22:05 >>FRANK REDDICK: Thank you, Mr. Chair.
09:22:08 Today, after 31 years of working for the City of Tampa, Ms.
09:22:14 Russell decided to retire.
09:22:16 And I just want to say when she first started working as a
09:22:22 service clerk, she started making 4.50 an hour.
09:22:27 And she was even making $8.
09:22:32 Leaving making $8.
09:22:33 [ Laughter ]
09:22:36 She did get a raise but not much.
09:22:38 But we are honored to be able to hand this commendation to
09:22:45 you for your 31 years of service and also for serving as
09:22:50 vice-president of the city's Black History Committee.
09:22:52 We want to congratulate you.
09:22:55 You didn't get a one-year contract extension, did you?
09:22:59 [ Laughter ]
09:22:59 I was wondering if anyone offered you that.
09:23:01 But we want to present this to you and just wish you great
09:23:07 suck in your fought endeavors, and on behalf of the Tampa
09:23:11 City Council it is our honor to present you this
09:23:14 commendation for 31 years.
09:23:21 My pleasure.
09:23:22 Thank you.
09:23:39 >> I want to thank everybody very much for their kindness
09:23:43 and over the 31 years, this is not easy.
09:23:47 It's a little difficult, to tell the truth.
09:23:51 But I have done my best to leave a legacy of love, kindness
09:23:54 and professionalism when dealing with my co-workers, with my
09:24:00 superiors, and especially the citizens and residents of
09:24:03 Tampa and the bay area.
09:24:06 God is a good God.
09:24:08 He's a God of love, mercy, kindness, forgiveness and
09:24:11 discipline, to name a few attributes, and he knows how to
09:24:15 get things done.
09:24:17 I tried to pattern myself after Jesus.
09:24:20 You may think nothing is happening while you are working,
09:24:25 but by faith, things get done, and for us, you are enjoying
09:24:30 the fruits of your labor.
09:24:32 So started as customer service rep, MIS, went to the
09:24:41 permitting department, and the contractors, then I was in my
09:24:47 housing department which I enjoyed very, very much; to help
09:24:51 first-time home buyers to keep people off the street with
09:24:55 foreclosure prevention, and even now it has been a
09:25:05 tremendous blessing to work for the housing department.
09:25:07 I am think I was in that department for the majority of the
09:25:09 31 years, maybe one or two code enforcement.
09:25:14 So I really, really, really thank the City of Tampa because
09:25:16 I learned a lot.
09:25:20 And I really appreciate the City of Tampa Black History
09:25:22 Committee incorporated, the officers and members.
09:25:27 They know that they are near and dear to my heart.
09:25:34 Sheryllee and frank and everybody, Debby, they are special
09:25:39 And they need the City Council.
09:25:42 We appreciate your support over all of the years, but they
09:25:46 need you.
09:25:47 So please continue to support them and encourage them so
09:25:52 that this good work for the city can go on.
09:25:55 And finally, I dreamed about this day for a long time.
09:25:58 [ Laughter ]
09:26:00 And I'm going to give some undivided attention to God and to
09:26:04 my family.
09:26:05 My mother is a little under the weather so I want to spend
09:26:08 time with her, and my grandchildren.
09:26:10 But I love you and I will miss you.
09:26:12 But you are not out of the picture.
09:26:14 I will be around.
09:26:16 So thank you, thank you, thank you.
09:26:18 [ Applause ]
09:26:36 >> On behalf of the City of Tampa black history community,
09:26:39 we want to thank you for your years of service.
09:26:41 Just thank you.
09:26:45 >> Thank you, little brother.
09:26:49 [ Applause ]
09:26:56 >> And we have a wonderful new manager.
09:27:06 And I thank you inform your support and your encouraging
09:27:12 So thank you.
09:27:23 >>BOB McDONAUGH: Economic development.
09:27:25 Just a brief word about her service to the city.
09:27:29 Our citizens knew that they could always find a sympathetic,
09:27:33 empathetic ear, and they always left feeling better after
09:27:38 their visit.
09:27:39 She went above and beyond and had heartfelt feelings for
09:27:44 each and every one of the citizens than she helped when they
09:27:47 came with the housing department and we thank her for her
09:27:51 giving message and giving ways to our citizens.
09:27:55 [ Applause ]
09:27:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much for your 31 years of
09:28:06 But I know it wasn't just for the $4.50.
09:28:09 For the $8 that you were making after that, as Mr. Reddick
09:28:13 explained, it was the desire to serve the people that needed
09:28:17 help and we are so grateful that you did that for such a
09:28:20 long period of time and hopefully whoever fills those shoes
09:28:23 understand that it's about the people and the life of the
09:28:26 people and not about the salary.
09:28:27 Ms. Mulhern.
09:28:28 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
09:28:30 What a class act.
09:28:33 You just about brought tears to my eyes with that good-bye.
09:28:40 You have been such a wonderful person to all of us who work
09:28:43 here and to all of the citizens.
09:28:44 And we are really going to miss you.
09:28:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
09:28:48 Have a nice day.
09:28:55 Okay, we go to item number 3.
09:28:58 It's time for Jocelyn Carpenter of Community Foundation of
09:29:03 Tampa Bay and Ned Pope, and Mr. Pope is the president of the
09:29:14 Florida Next Foundation.
09:29:15 >> I'm Jocelyn Carpenter of the Community Foundation of
09:29:18 Tampa Bay. .
09:29:18 >> I'm Ned Pope, Florida Next foundation.
09:29:22 >> We are here to tell but an exiting project about that our
09:29:26 organizations are partnering on, an initiative that we
09:29:31 partnered together because we are really passionate about
09:29:34 the community, and teaching people, educating people about
09:29:39 The Community Foundation works for philanthropy across Tampa
09:29:42 Bay but specifically what we are doing with this project is
09:29:45 we really want to help educate the next generation of
09:29:48 community leaders.
09:29:50 And we are really interested.
09:29:53 It's very apropos that the students are here today because
09:29:57 we want to make sure that we are continuing to give back to
09:29:59 the community in any way possible.
09:30:03 Ned: One of the initiatives is to engage everyone in the
09:30:05 four-county region.
09:30:07 What we really want to do is try to introduce some
09:30:09 innovation to the nonprofit sector here in the bay area.
09:30:12 And with the hopes that that will increase our participation
09:30:16 in philanthropy and inspire the next generation of
09:30:19 philanthropists, and also make it a little easier to engage.
09:30:23 One of the things we hear a lot is that young professional
09:30:26 folks don't really know what sort of entities exist or where
09:30:31 to put their passion or how to find their passion in the
09:30:34 nonprofit sector, so focused on their families and careers
09:30:37 as they should be.
09:30:38 So what we try to do is the package an even marketplace for
09:30:43 people to access.
09:30:44 We used to go into the stores and boy CDs and things of that
09:30:48 Now it's easier to go on iTunes and via phone in two
09:30:54 We want to remove some of the administrative barriers for
09:30:57 people to engage at this stage in their career in, that 20
09:31:00 or 40 range of young professionals so we are focusing
09:31:03 heavily on the mobile applications for this initiative,
09:31:07 focusing heavily on exposure through social media and other
09:31:10 means like that, to really try and create a full narrative,
09:31:16 and we are asking for your support.
09:31:17 >> And specifically, what Tampa Bay is, is a Web site, so in
09:31:24 the months leading up to it and across the area are
09:31:27 registering, creating profiles, for anyone in the Tampa Bay
09:31:30 community can log onto the Web site, learn more about a
09:31:33 mission or organization that they may not be familiar with,
09:31:35 and then on May 6th on that Web site you can make a
09:31:40 donation, and 100% of the community foundation is not taking
09:31:45 any administrative fee.
09:31:47 Everything is going back out to the nonprofits.
09:31:49 And we are drumming up support from all the different
09:31:51 communities, and we would love the support of the City of
09:31:55 As now we have several nonprofits in our area.
09:31:59 It's also from an economic standpoint we provide a lot of
09:32:04 employment through the nonprofit sector, and just makes
09:32:07 Tampa a better place to attract businesses, attract
09:32:13 employees, and we want to make sure we are continuing.
09:32:16 >>MIKE SUAREZ: When you give on this particular day on the
09:32:26 Web site can you designate a particularly charity?
09:32:30 >> Absolutely.
09:32:31 And you can do several different charities.
09:32:34 The way you set it up is that nonprofits participating, they
09:32:37 have a log-in for that Web site so they can actually log in
09:32:40 on May 6th and the donors who are participating with
09:32:44 We found in case studies, there would be a 24 hour of things
09:32:49 that happen across the country and about 20 to 25% of donors
09:32:53 are brand new to the organization.
09:32:54 That's what we are trying to provide.
09:32:57 We really want these nonprofits to walk away with a lot of
09:33:00 new people that they can start in their organization and we
09:33:04 also partnered with the nonprofit leadership center in Tampa
09:33:08 to provide some free workshops to the nonprofits.
09:33:11 >> So a nonprofit not currently on the Web site, they would
09:33:14 have to contact you, the easiest way to be put onto the Web
09:33:18 >> Exactly.
09:33:20 And if you go to TampaBay.org there is a red button at the
09:33:25 top where you can make a pledge or if you are a nonprofit
09:33:28 you can go ahead and register.
09:33:30 >> Let me stop you for a second.
09:33:32 They have to go to givedaytampabay.org.
09:33:39 So there are some organizations that they will know where to
09:33:41 go to.
09:33:42 >> Absolutely.
09:33:43 Thank you, chair.
09:33:44 >>MARY MULHERN: Councilman Suarez asked most of my
09:33:49 That's great.
09:33:50 So my only question is, is there a deadline for not for
09:33:53 profits to sign up on your Web site for the give day?
09:33:58 >> Right up until the last minute.
09:34:02 However, we are encouraging people to sign up sooner rather
09:34:05 than later so you can take advantage of the campaigns, the
09:34:08 media, and then free training opportunities through the
09:34:11 nonprofit leadership center.
09:34:13 >>MARY MULHERN: This is kind of technical but how is the
09:34:16 giving on the Web site going to work?
09:34:18 Are you going to just send people to the individual Web site
09:34:21 through your link?
09:34:22 Or are you actually collecting?
09:34:26 >> The Community Foundation of Tampa Bay, we will be
09:34:31 processing all of those online donations that day and then
09:34:35 turning around and taking that total and giving it back out.
09:34:38 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you for doing this.
09:34:44 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you so very much.
09:34:48 We go to public comments.
09:34:49 At any time before I go to public comments the individuals
09:34:54 who brought this lovely class from the Villa, in fact my two
09:34:57 girls went to the Villa, eights great school.
09:35:00 At any time that you wish to tell me, hey, I want to come
09:35:04 up, real quickly, when you want to exit -- I'm not telling
09:35:09 you to leave -- when you leave if you want to come up and
09:35:12 give your name on the way out.
09:35:14 That way you are on film and we appreciate it very much.
09:35:17 Like I said, you are the next leaders of this country.
09:35:20 Okay, we go to public comment.
09:35:26 All right.
09:35:27 They want to do it now.
09:35:28 So before I go to public comment, if I may, if you start
09:35:32 right here and just get up and then follow the next row on
09:35:35 the way out, and just say your name on the Mike.
09:35:38 Stop at the mike and keep walking.
09:35:40 Go on, you're first, young lady.
09:35:42 Don't worry about anything.
09:35:44 Get in line.
09:35:44 I want to see the line that follows one of the teachers
09:37:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you all for attending.
09:37:20 Now council, I will vote for anyone who can memorize all the
09:37:24 names that were just given to me.
09:37:26 Thank you very much.
09:37:27 You got my vote.
09:37:28 >> All live in my district.
09:37:38 >> They might live in your district.
09:37:40 Anyone to speak, please come forward at this time.
09:37:42 >> Pete Johnson, 510 Harrison street.
09:37:53 I wish I was that young again.
09:37:55 Do this all over.
09:37:58 I take every minute I possibly can to talk about code,
09:38:01 because code to me is so important for the quality of life
09:38:06 in our neighborhoods.
09:38:13 This address had code violations going on since 2000.
09:38:18 It is repeatedly been cleared by the code enforcement
09:38:21 department for an illegal boarding house.
09:38:25 We now have another case on it.
09:38:30 Yet code has not acted.
09:38:34 Code has not designated that it is an illegal structure.
09:38:40 We have gone everywhere from seven electric meters being
09:38:46 installed on it, seven different apartments, people living
09:38:49 in houses, former decisions not being enforced.
09:39:01 Enforcement board decisions not being enforced.
09:39:07 There is something wrong with our system and the problem is
09:39:10 the very, very last page.
09:39:15 If we do not follow the Florida State statute, 162.03, and
09:39:23 hold people accountable according to law, we will never
09:39:29 correct the problem of code.
09:39:32 Now, we have just stopped inspecting multiple units of five
09:39:38 units or more because of a state law.
09:39:43 I believe in following the law.
09:39:47 Why the city does not follow this state statute amazes me.
09:39:54 We are breaking the law.
09:39:57 The city is not in compliance with the law.
09:40:01 We need to correct this problem.
09:40:04 You are the only people that I am at this point allowed to
09:40:10 speak to.
09:40:15 I have been told that I can only speak to certain
09:40:18 administrators, and nine times out of ten there's only one,
09:40:23 and that's Thom Snelling, that has called me back.
09:40:27 And I appreciate that.
09:40:32 But this is ridiculous.
09:40:34 He would cannot keep going on and not following the state
09:40:39 It came up in a code board hearing yesterday.
09:40:42 It was supported by the entire insurance.
09:40:46 It was supported by the attorney for the board.
09:40:51 We need to uphold the statutes of the State of Florida.
09:40:57 Thank you.
09:40:57 (Bell sounds).
09:40:59 >>FRANK REDDICK: Mr. Johnson, who told you you cannot
09:41:02 speak -- you can only speak to certain administrators?
09:41:07 >> I have been told by several departments that I am limited
09:41:10 to only speaking to certain people.
09:41:15 Now, I also understand that the administration does not have
09:41:17 the obligation to reply back to me.
09:41:22 But they do -- but they have an obligation to reply back to
09:41:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much, sir.
09:41:32 Next, please.
09:41:32 >> Before I start, I would need clarification of the
09:41:40 procedure being followed here.
09:41:42 Do you want people to speak at the end of each workshop?
09:41:45 Or should we speak now?
09:41:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I just gave you the explanation.
09:41:53 When I have a workshop you are entitled to speak after.
09:41:57 You don't know what we are going to say.
09:41:59 >> Could I speak now?
09:42:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: No.
09:42:02 You can speak now for three minutes.
09:42:04 >> Well, okay, that should be enough.
09:42:06 I'll speak to item 4 and 5, because I looked ahead to see
09:42:11 what it is.
09:42:12 And, you know, of course I always want to speak about Volts,
09:42:17 PHEVs and station events, but I am trying to limit to
09:42:23 items 4 and 5.
09:42:25 With respect to item 4, I handed this around because in one
09:42:32 of the presentations earlier on, outlining things, economic
09:42:41 viability and sustainability and now it's been changed a
09:42:43 little bit.
09:42:44 And the word environmental is used.
09:42:48 Now, I was an environmental engineer. To me at first that's
09:42:52 nature but they extended it to other things but it's still a
09:42:55 little bit of a subterfuge where I think livable is a little
09:43:00 better because livable, things like this come to play.
09:43:05 This was over in St. Pete.
09:43:06 Somebody going 100 miles per hour.
09:43:08 But this is what is out there.
09:43:10 And here is the other thing.
09:43:13 The red light cameras.
09:43:15 That's coming up now.
09:43:16 And the red light cameras are very critical.
09:43:21 And I wanted to say that.
09:43:24 And thought the intersection would be good, too.
09:43:28 But, anyway, that's stuff that's got to be dealt with.
09:43:32 Now, I talk about volts.
09:43:34 Let me extend that.
09:43:35 Go out and buy a convertible.
09:43:38 Then you will get a sense of the noise around this
09:43:41 Get the police department a convertible.
09:43:44 And the thing is give them a noise meter, and if somebody
09:43:48 with these loud stereos, because they are loud, or without a
09:43:52 muffler, sees a convertible coming up on them, and a gun
09:43:56 being aimed at his car, you know, it's like a light gun but
09:44:04 tells noise levels, it should be 25 feet actually.
09:44:07 But the thing is, it's the county ordinance, and it's the
09:44:10 county that has the equipment, and maybe that this will put
09:44:15 a stop to this.
09:44:16 These $150 fines are not being enforced.
09:44:19 And they are going like this to you.
09:44:24 They are just ignoring.
09:44:26 This it's gotten worse since you put that $150 thing in
09:44:29 because they are giving it to you. So something has to be
09:44:33 done about that.
09:44:34 With respect to items-okay.
09:44:37 With respect to economic liability, I have spoken, the food
09:44:41 industry, licensing seems to be picking up on that now.
09:44:45 The technology corridor.
09:44:48 And a very important part of that is education.
09:44:50 And this was a very good quote by Jeb, but the smart
09:44:56 And the thing is -- I mean, education, it was the model.
09:45:04 I thought that was wrong.
09:45:05 I have changed my mind.
09:45:06 It is very important.
09:45:07 With respect to item 5, very much of the Jackson house
09:45:11 because the Jackson house could become a bed and breakfast.
09:45:14 (Bell sounds).
09:45:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
09:45:17 Anyone else?
09:45:18 No wonder our ratings are up.
09:45:21 Thank you.
09:45:22 We go to workshops.
09:45:26 These are workshops on item number 4.
09:45:32 And we go to 5 and 6.
09:45:34 Need a motion to open the workshops.
09:45:36 Motion by Mr. Reddick.
09:45:37 Second by Mr. Cohen to open the workshop.
09:45:40 All in favor?
09:45:42 The ayes have it unanimously.
09:45:43 >>BOB McDONAUGH: Economic development.
09:45:45 I would just like to say a couple words about the agreement
09:45:50 being presented this morning.
09:45:51 You know, the last three years went from 8 pages to 30
09:45:57 The report contains examples of low tech which is the use of
09:46:02 light reflective to high tech.
09:46:05 We have a -- cuts down on the use of lubricants.
09:46:16 Examples, significant cost savings, reduction in chemicals
09:46:20 by the water department, to cost neutral, sourcing food
09:46:25 locally by the convention center, the distribution of unused
09:46:29 Another example of significant savings is the parking
09:46:33 garage, 50% reduction in energy use, to revenue neutral,
09:46:38 which is use of electric carts to reduce our carbon
09:46:41 footprints by the parking department.
09:46:43 This is likely because the employees.
09:46:47 This report was done by Stephanie Stanton in the budget
09:46:50 department and I think you will be very impressed by this
09:46:53 year's report.
09:46:54 The facilities management team, every time they go out to do
09:46:57 a repair, they look at, is there a better way of doing this
09:47:01 in a more energy efficient way of the city to operate?
09:47:05 Brad Baird, I talked briefly about the savings in chemicals.
09:47:08 This past year, he used 1405 tons less of caustic soda in
09:47:16 preparing water for us. A significant amount of chemicals.
09:47:16 Less amount of chemicals.
09:47:18 Anthony Casper on the wastewater team.
09:47:21 You are all aware of the fact we have a co-gen plant with
09:47:24 solid waste to produce electricity.
09:47:30 At our wastewater plant we use co-gen using the methane
09:47:36 that's produced by the process, which basically runs most of
09:47:37 the plant, and he is also pursuing a significant reduction
09:47:41 of chemical use.
09:47:43 You are familiar with what we are doing with fleet, getting
09:47:45 smaller and more efficient vehicles.
09:47:46 Solid waste, CNG.
09:47:49 But can we do more?
09:47:50 The answer is certainly yes.
09:47:52 Will we do more?
09:47:54 The answer is certainly yes.
09:47:55 And it's not about the money, just because it's the right
09:47:58 thing to do.
09:47:59 Thanks a lot.
09:48:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
09:48:02 In fact, those things have been going on for years.
09:48:04 You produce enough electricity for 15,000 homes in one
09:48:07 plant, and the other plant you produced the little pellets
09:48:11 that you buy at Loews, Home Depot, Ace, fertilizer.
09:48:19 So those things are being sold and we appreciate everything
09:48:21 you are doing.
09:48:22 Yes, sir?
09:48:28 >>THOM SNELLING: Director of planning development.
09:48:31 Actually giving you a report.
09:48:37 One thing I did want to repeat what Mr. McDonaugh did say,
09:48:42 the report that we present to you, a couple, two years ago,
09:48:47 three years ago, and one of the reasons this report comes in
09:48:50 this fashion now, it allows you to continue to grow and
09:48:55 That's why each year it goes from 20 pages to 25 or 30 or
09:48:59 It's because we keep adding and it also provides a way to
09:49:03 track these things as they continue to gone forward.
09:49:08 The actual report is here.
09:49:11 Some things to give to you.
09:49:13 I will also send this report to you electronically, and this
09:49:16 report in total will be online as well.
09:49:18 But today I am going to hand you this paper copy of the
09:49:20 actual report and you can take a look at that.
09:49:54 Can I have the Power Point, please?
09:50:02 This is the report.
09:50:03 And what I have, the report itself has the details.
09:50:08 It's quite extensive.
09:50:09 The Power Point today is just -- it's 18 pages, and it's
09:50:14 really focused on what has taken place over the past year
09:50:17 versus what we have been doing for quite some time now.
09:50:29 These are the five areas of sustainability we report on.
09:50:33 Environment, operations, and partnerships.
09:50:39 The green spaces, a couple -- some of the significant
09:50:42 captain ones -- well, there's more, but these two in front.
09:50:47 The Davis Island dog beach.
09:50:52 It did recapture and improve some of the environment down
09:50:56 Top me the most important thing about that is it actually
09:50:58 installs artificial reefs down there which will increase the
09:51:02 amount of sea life and fish, so the establishment of the
09:51:16 artificial reef was an important part of that project.
09:51:19 You won't see unless you are in the boat or go down and take
09:51:22 a look at it.
09:51:24 The cypress point park, hopefully this isn't folks that are
09:51:27 going to be using it all the time.
09:51:30 But again an area that was underutilized and turn it into a
09:51:35 recreational and environmental amenity.
09:51:37 In the Waterworks Park perhaps is one of the most
09:51:41 significant captain things we have done in recent years.
09:51:45 Reestablishing the ulele springs which by now you know it
09:51:49 was one of the first sources of our drinking water in the
09:51:52 City of Tampa, but more importantly it allowed that spring
09:51:55 to flow more freely adding additional freshwater and
09:51:58 cleaning up the water, which is terribly important, as well
09:52:00 as providing great riverfront access and in an environmental
09:52:06 amenity to an area that was degradated and did not provide
09:52:12 any improvements to the environment itself.
09:52:14 And we did this in partnership to give people assistance
09:52:18 from Southwest Florida Water Management District to help
09:52:21 with the granting to move this project forward.
09:52:25 More green spaces.
09:52:26 It's about connectivity and it's about using some of the
09:52:28 things that we have for more than one purpose.
09:52:32 A good example of that is recently completed Osborne pond
09:52:38 exercise trail, took a facility which is needed to ensure
09:52:42 life and safety throughout that area and made it into an
09:52:45 amenity and made it a multi-access, a multimodal facility.
09:52:53 The upgrade along Bayshore Boulevard, obviously Bayshore
09:52:56 probably the most utilized trail in the City of Tampa, and
09:53:02 that being used by everybody, Segways, skateboarders.
09:53:07 Again, we continue with the greenways and trails.
09:53:10 You may not normally think about the 22nd street roundabout
09:53:13 as part of the connectivity for the trails, and the green
09:53:16 spaces, but truly is the center of that area does provide --
09:53:21 it slows traffic down, makes it safer for pedestrians to use
09:53:23 the adjoining areas, and it begins to help connect more and
09:53:27 more areas, more parts of the urban core of the city
09:53:32 And we also have the New Tampa bridge.
09:53:36 That's significant because, you know, you are looking at
09:53:39 this big bridge where cars are flying over, but what people
09:53:42 sometimes don't realize is they have improved the pedestrian
09:53:45 connectivity in that area so people can maneuver in that
09:53:48 area a lot safer than before that portion was complete.
09:53:54 Again, it's green spaces but it's the multimodal use of
09:53:59 perhaps the second most used vehicle and bicycle, providing
09:54:07 safer bikeways along the routes, virtually all of the
09:54:09 projects that we have going forward, includes bicycle
09:54:14 amenities as part of their rehabilitation.
09:54:17 Mr. McDonaugh pointed out the other department.
09:54:20 The transportation department has that embedded into their
09:54:22 policies as they are looking at capital projects going
09:54:27 And also the bike share program which will be up and running
09:54:30 this spring.
09:54:31 It will provide -- it will take traffic off the ground.
09:54:34 It will allow people to use bicycle amenities much more
09:54:39 efficiently, and reduce the amount of traffic that will be
09:54:43 there for short trips in and around the central core of the
09:54:50 This is the focus on the environment and ecological types,
09:54:55 items that the city continues to move forward.
09:54:59 This takes tons and tons of trash out of the river and out
09:55:03 of our environment and unsightly for sure but also has a lot
09:55:10 of environmental degradation that goes along with it along
09:55:14 with the vermin it attracts and disease it attracts, and a
09:55:19 safe and healthy environment is very important.
09:55:21 The cleaning up of contaminated properties, continue to work
09:55:25 vigorously in the browns field program, over in solid waste,
09:55:29 and environmental management works that program a lot.
09:55:33 We have an active program that continues, started out as a
09:55:36 pilot grant.
09:55:37 And particularly in my department, the urban ecological
09:55:42 study and urban forest plant along with the working force
09:55:45 working group, that plan itself recently completed late last
09:55:50 year will become some of the base that we amend our tree and
09:55:54 landscape code and various buffers and things like that and
09:55:58 puts us a little more in tune, actually a lot more in tune
09:56:01 with mow how he would want to move forward and establish
09:56:04 what types of codes we follow as we continue development
09:56:07 throughout the city.
09:56:13 Again, I put up these plan here, the envision plan as well
09:56:18 as historic preservation, because within that plan, for the
09:56:21 InVision plan as well as the central city plan that was part
09:56:24 of that and our historic preservation program,
09:56:26 sustainability is embedded throughout those plans entirely.
09:56:30 The grant that we had required it.
09:56:33 And it talks about multimodal, talks about environmental,
09:56:36 talks about historic preservation, reusing our buildings.
09:56:40 So those things, those things are the things that are
09:56:42 embedded in how we are going to implement and how we are
09:56:45 going to continues to move forward as a city.
09:56:46 Sustainability is embedded in virtually every element of our
09:56:51 comprehensive plan.
09:56:53 And as that plan is revised and amended by my staff, that
09:56:56 type of perspective will continue to grow and take a larger
09:57:01 role in that.
09:57:05 Again just kind of going over it.
09:57:07 You have the new urbanism.
09:57:08 I put that up there because we recently wrapped up the
09:57:12 Seminole Heights efforts toward the end of last summer,
09:57:15 beginning of fall, and some of the projects that are
09:57:17 currently being developed are being developed with the smart
09:57:21 growth, with the pedestrian accessibility
09:57:43 Our participation with the Urban Land Institute, we started
09:57:46 that a few years back, did panel studies for downtown, then
09:57:50 we were awarded, Mayor Buckhorn became a UIL fellow and
09:57:59 studied growth and how to implement those things.
09:58:02 And another step to of that is manager Cathy Coyle, she was
09:58:07 appointed to the transit oriented development council on
09:58:10 that, U.S. products council.
09:58:13 Why that is significant is because that will copy us at the
09:58:16 forefront of sustainable practices, sustainable policies,
09:58:20 and urban land development activity.
09:58:24 Having somebody serve on that council helps bring focus and
09:58:28 also provides us with a great resource because she is in
09:58:30 contact with the people on a national level.
09:58:34 So it does step Tampa up to the forefront of those kinds of
09:58:38 activities and people will look to us to participate in
09:58:42 sustainable activities, other sustainable products, and
09:58:46 actually very proud to have her having been appointed to
09:58:51 That was her doing and certainly not mine.
09:59:02 Of learning gate.
09:59:07 A school up in Lutz, which is -- the first gold elementary
09:59:14 school in the State of Florida.
09:59:15 They have had an ongoing -- they celebrated since their
09:59:20 inception, an ecofest.
09:59:21 And even though it's in Lutz, it's not technically in the
09:59:24 City of Tampa, I don't know that environmental issues really
09:59:27 have a line in the sand that they follow, water flows, the
09:59:33 same with bad air, but they reached out to us and some of
09:59:36 the folks in parks and recreation and special events, we
09:59:40 were able to work with them and partner with them.
09:59:42 So we are bringing their ecofest events to Lowry Park which
09:59:47 they are anticipating over 5,000 visitors, 120 vendors, the
09:59:51 city will be there with some of our parks and recreation,
09:59:54 solid wastewater, et cetera, and just celebrate the urban
09:59:58 environment and the ecological benefits that take place.
10:00:02 Sometimes we get so bogged down in the pollution and every
10:00:12 once in a while step back and say, now, we really are doing
10:00:16 some things right, so we partner with them to have our earth
10:00:19 day celebration as part of their celebration and hope to do
10:00:22 so for the future as well.
10:00:24 So please do come out on April 12th.
10:00:26 We will be there.
10:00:27 I will have my dogs there.
10:00:50 Frankly, I think our water department, Mr. McDonaugh told
10:00:53 you about the savings with some of the chemicals.
10:00:55 If you look up here, these are just some of the things that
10:00:58 we offer to our consumers, plumbing kits, leak detection
10:01:02 kits, water barrels, are build your own rebate program,
10:01:09 which is amazing, you decide how much money you want to
10:01:12 save, how much you are going to conserve, you sign a pledge
10:01:15 that you are going to do that and if you reach that, you get
10:01:17 that rebate.
10:01:18 And it has really helped.
10:01:19 It's a fairly unique program but I think our water
10:01:22 department steps up offering the various conservations,
10:01:27 programs that they have.
10:01:29 I think we are second to none in that regard.
10:01:46 Beings we have worked with the Sierra Club, University of
10:01:49 South Florida, Hillsborough County with the Environmental
10:01:51 Protection Commission, various workshops with the water
10:01:55 department on landscape, Florida water
10:02:00 and that was with the southwest Florida water management
10:02:16 More with
10:02:17 The green environment.
10:02:18 Again, working with the D.O.T. and Hillsborough County, MPO.
10:02:23 Improving the signalization
10:02:43 Some of the PTA folks got on a program to encourage people
10:02:46 to not stand in line for their children, turn their cars
10:02:49 off, because people would idle for a half hour or an hour,
10:02:55 and they went to a program and showed by just come there and
10:02:57 turning their car off, save emission, save gas, and the
10:03:01 amount of pollutants you are putting in the air.
10:03:03 It's the same thought in making your signalization clearer
10:03:06 so there's less idle time.
10:03:12 Another important thing to point out quickly is the
10:03:15 electronic and chemical collections that the solid waste
10:03:20 department does.
10:03:21 On an annual basis, they pull 42,000 pounds of electronics
10:03:34 and chemicals, because the electronics they put in there,
10:03:37 including paint and all that stuff, is terribly degrading to
10:03:42 the environment, and environmental problems, the same thing
10:03:50 with the electronics, the chemicals and the medals in there
10:03:53 if allowed to get into the water stream and causes problems
10:03:56 for drinking water as well as soil.
10:04:01 Recycling has gone through the roof recently were the advent
10:04:04 of the new carts they put into place.
10:04:07 We have other initiatives coming up to expand our services
10:04:13 to commercial.
10:04:14 And as you know I moved back into the city a little over a
10:04:17 year ago, and probably a month after I was there I got my
10:04:21 own green cart, and anecdotally my switch from garbage is
10:04:29 probably 80% recycling, 20% garbage.
10:04:32 There are times I don't put out my garbage for two weeks at
10:04:34 a time.
10:04:35 And recycling goes out every Thursday.
10:04:37 And it's full.
10:04:41 So I may be an extreme example but I'm sure others follow
10:04:44 very similar suit.
10:04:45 >>FRANK REDDICK: You eat out more, that's all.
10:04:55 >> In Seminole Heights.
10:05:00 Green operations.
10:05:01 I'm very jealous, my staff can't use some of these cars
10:05:06 because we spend a great deal of time moving back from 1400
10:05:10 Right now I have Cathy Coyle here, later on Gloria, half of
10:05:14 my staff on Thursdays are running back and forth.
10:05:17 I would like to get the transportation manager, the parking
10:05:23 manager, Jim Corbett, to let us have a couple of those GEM
10:05:28 vehicles, electric vehicles.
10:05:29 And they have reduced greenhouse gas emissions.
10:05:32 They have reduced the amount of fuel used.
10:05:35 Everything that happens there because they are electronic
10:05:38 and they are able to handle all of their operations within a
10:05:40 very small area of downtown and take care of all the parking
10:05:43 garages in a much more energy efficient fashion.
10:05:47 I put the TECO streetcar up there because I hadn't done that
10:05:51 in the past.
10:05:52 It's not like this is brand new obviously.
10:05:54 But on an annual basis, 28,000 conventioneers -- and that's
10:06:00 not a typo in that number.
10:06:02 Those are real numbers of people that use the street car
10:06:05 when moving in and around.
10:06:07 Why that's important, because what happens is that streetcar
10:06:09 does allow people access to the central business district,
10:06:13 it allows access to the Channel District which is typically
10:06:15 where their conventions are, and also allows them to access
10:06:20 Ybor City in a very efficient way.
10:06:22 I know the streetcar when it came out people thought it was
10:06:24 somewhat of a novelty in terms of transportation.
10:06:26 The reality is, with the advent of the residents and the
10:06:29 growth, and increased activity going on in those three core
10:06:34 areas of central city, the streetcar is becoming more and
10:06:37 more viable, legitimate transportation thing, and will
10:06:40 continue to move in that direction in the future, I'm sure.
10:06:43 But I wanted to point this out to you, those are just
10:06:48 conventioneers that use it.
10:06:52 The residents use it on a fairly frequent basis as well.
10:06:57 More on the green operations, the route optimization.
10:07:01 It speaks more to what Mr. McDonaugh said about the
10:07:04 efficiencies of how we tend to do the operation.
10:07:08 Some of that that has resulted in reduction of fuel
10:07:11 consumption, 1.1%, not huge, but anytime you can reduce your
10:07:16 consumption, that's a movement in the right direction.
10:07:19 Replacement of the diesel engines, converters.
10:07:27 Their byproduct is nitrogen and water.
10:07:31 Nitrogen, as you know, represents 73 or 77% of the air that
10:07:38 you breathe is nitrogen.
10:07:40 We always think it's oxygen but it's not.
10:07:42 It's predominantly nitrogen.
10:07:45 And then again, more on the automated recycling made
10:07:50 significant improvements in terms of its operation and
10:07:54 Again the efficiencies that we do by reducing energy
10:08:01 consumption, by reducing energy consumption, we save money,
10:08:05 but we have to generate less money which reduces the amount
10:08:08 of greenhouse gas emissions.
10:08:11 And then I just pointed out some of the L.E.D., the cool
10:08:17 roofs, the construction materials, or the cool-roof
10:08:22 materials throughout the city, convention center has nine
10:08:24 acres covered in the cool roof, reduces the amount of money
10:08:28 that they have to spend to cool the building itself.
10:08:31 That alone with the improved chillers that you heard about
10:08:34 before has helped them really reduce the amount of energy
10:08:38 consumption that they do just by continuing to move towards
10:08:41 more and more efficient operation.
10:08:47 More on the facilities in Drew Park, while not terribly
10:08:50 sexy, they are following a bio swale protest which captures
10:08:56 the water and helps clean it more efficiently and taking
10:08:58 more of the pollutants and more of the bad things out of the
10:09:01 water by capturing it and utilizing it as part of an amenity
10:09:05 versus just a drainage pond.
10:09:07 Again, daylight harvesting at the convention center by
10:09:13 utilizing daylight, you can go walk around by the day by
10:09:16 opening up the windows and getting rid of the shades you can
10:09:18 have usable light without everything to power things that
10:09:21 Then we are partnering with energy star, at the convention
10:09:28 center as well.
10:09:33 LEED buildings.
10:09:34 Now the city did not build all 27 of those but currently
10:09:37 there are 27 new registered LEED buildings going on in the
10:09:43 Tampa area.
10:09:44 That includes commercial, recreation as well as residential.
10:09:47 I pulled it up the LEED Web site you can see all of the
10:10:00 buildings listed there.
10:10:01 There's many of them.
10:10:02 Why that's important is because the first report I did in
10:10:07 2009, I put up that in that particular year there were, I
10:10:12 think, nine new buildings that were LEED.
10:10:14 This year there's 27.
10:10:16 So it's encouraging that the private sector, they get it.
10:10:21 They are getting it.
10:10:22 And they are moving in that direction by moving more and
10:10:24 more of their buildings as LEED certified silver, gold and
10:10:30 Encore, I pointed that out to you because the city put in
10:10:34 $2.375 million towards the construction of that project.
10:10:37 That project is going to receive a LEED gold certification
10:10:44 so that is important because it accomplishes affordable
10:10:46 housing for the needy citizens we have as well as
10:10:48 establishes the standards by which you can build affordable
10:10:51 housing by following the LEED certified pattern.
10:10:56 And then lastly, just to show that the partner is continuing
10:11:04 to expand its LEED business program further.
10:11:08 I have a list of the names there.
10:11:09 But the other thing that's kind of exciting is right now
10:11:12 something that has really expanded, and includes working
10:11:16 with some of the downtown partners.
10:11:18 Now, you see them on the bottom, the various restaurants is
10:11:21 to really bring recycling and use of -- less use of
10:11:27 Styrofoam, plastic cups and returning back to a more
10:11:29 environmentally friendly way with the downtown businesses as
10:11:33 they brought that into focus.
10:11:35 So that's the new direction, and we have enjoyed a
10:11:40 partnership with them for several years.
10:11:41 Just want to point out they have continued to be aggressive
10:11:44 in bringing more businesses into that program as well as
10:11:48 reaching out to core sector for businesses or restaurants.
10:11:53 Restaurants produce a good deal of waste in getting them to
10:11:57 recycle their cardboard boxes and beer cases and their cans
10:12:01 and all of those things are very important.
10:12:03 Also, encourage them to get AP way from the use of plastic.
10:12:08 And that's kind of what the new focus is.
10:12:12 And I will answer any questions you have.
10:12:17 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have Mrs. Mulhern, Mrs. Montelione,
10:12:20 Mrs. Capin.
10:12:21 >>MARY MULHERN: Thanks for the presentation, Thom.
10:12:25 And I have a number of questions and quite a few
10:12:29 >>THOM SNELLING: Okay.
10:12:29 >>MARY MULHERN: First, just I noticed here -- and this is
10:12:35 for our own information -- it looked like it said June
10:12:40 13th for the hazardous waste collection or pickup.
10:12:49 That was last year.
10:12:52 The 13th is a Friday.
10:12:54 Friday the 13th.
10:12:58 >>THOM SNELLING: I will have to find that out.
10:13:00 >>MARY MULHERN: Let us know when that is.
10:13:02 Then my big question about this whole presentation is, I
10:13:06 believe that this report that started more than four years
10:13:13 ago, right?
10:13:18 >> I believe in '09.
10:13:21 >>MARY MULHERN: So there were a couple of things.
10:13:23 And one of them was that we -- and it was in response to us
10:13:29 renewing the TECO franchise agreement, and there was that
10:13:36 mayor's citizens committee that made recommendations.
10:13:41 I would like to, you know, maybe next year when you do this,
10:13:45 make sure -- and you may have done that, and it may be in
10:13:48 here, because this is a very comprehensive and long report.
10:13:51 But what recommendations that were arrived at that were
10:14:00 >>THOM SNELLING: Okay.
10:14:00 >>MARY MULHERN: And then my big question, though, I know
10:14:03 that we did greenhouse gas emission baseline inventory, and
10:14:11 I would think that you should be tracking that, as you give
10:14:17 us this report on, if it's adopted, overall are we reducing
10:14:24 our output and how much?
10:14:27 >>THOM SNELLING: Yes.
10:14:28 And you pointed out the task force.
10:14:32 They made some recommendations and the energy conservation
10:14:34 plan, that's the baseline study.
10:14:39 My work program along with my intern and the other folks
10:14:43 that help is to start to pinpoint.
10:14:45 They did point out in the study a number of policies, and
10:14:51 the work program over the next 12 months, next year, to take
10:14:56 some of those policies and see which have been implemented.
10:14:59 I have started to track that.
10:15:02 There's quite a few.
10:15:03 But I will bring that back next time.
10:15:04 But this year, my work program officer is to take that study
10:15:10 and implement a lot of those things.
10:15:12 Because what this report shows is that our other
10:15:14 departments, they are operating as efficiently as possible.
10:15:20 My focus will be the next work program will be on those two
10:15:24 >> And what about the measuring your reductions an carbon
10:15:32 >> That's part of the energy conservation program that will
10:15:36 And by showing which of the policies we have started to
10:15:41 implement, I should be able to start to see where there have
10:15:44 been reductions.
10:15:45 >>MARY MULHERN: Okay.
10:15:47 But I think what we need to follow up on that inventory and
10:15:54 measure what our total output is compared to that to see if
10:16:00 we are achieving some reductions overall.
10:16:06 >>THOM SNELLING: Okay.
10:16:06 >>MARY MULHERN: I remember back when we talked about this
10:16:11 before you even did the study, there were some volunteers
10:16:18 who were willing to do the measurement.
10:16:21 So I think it's important enough that we should fund it if
10:16:25 we need to.
10:16:27 But it's also something you might be able to get from
10:16:31 graduate school help on.
10:16:38 These are just comments.
10:16:40 And I know you talked about the white roof, but I think we
10:16:49 need to be -- the cities need to be leaders in solar energy
10:16:55 in Florida, and it just shameful that we are not.
10:16:58 And that's not just the cities, but that, you know, overall,
10:17:02 in the sunshine state, we are not moving forward with solar,
10:17:05 which has now, the cost has come down to be equal with the
10:17:10 cost of natural gas.
10:17:12 So all the arguments about it's too expensive, we need to
10:17:17 look at solar options.
10:17:19 And I think, you know, you have got the convention center
10:17:22 there that's huge, square footage of roof, we could be
10:17:26 putting solar panels on there.
10:17:28 Another thing that I have talked to those in the private
10:17:33 sector and to the city about is solar canopies for our
10:17:38 parking lots, for all of our surface and roof parking lots,
10:17:42 we could have solar canopies which they provide shade, and
10:17:46 they would provide electricity.
10:17:50 And also I want to point out that we have a leader at USF in
10:17:55 Dr. Goswami on solar and we should be working with USF on
10:18:04 city buildings.
10:18:06 Then this one is another question.
10:18:09 About the hybrid vehicles.
10:18:10 I know you showed us those little smart cars.
10:18:13 That's great.
10:18:15 But, you know, we have been asking for this for at least
10:18:18 seven years, that the city increase the number of hybrid and
10:18:24 electric vehicles to reduce our carbon output.
10:18:29 I would like to know if we have any goals, and what the
10:18:32 total number that we have increased to, because I think it
10:18:36 was -- it was under 10 with what we had as far as hybrid
10:18:42 cars back, I don't know, six, seven, eight years ago.
10:18:46 I would like to know, you know, how many we have now.
10:18:54 I don't know if you have an answer to that or if you want to
10:18:56 just come back with that.
10:18:58 >>THOM SNELLING: Okay.
10:18:59 >>MARY MULHERN: Then this is a suggestion.
10:19:02 And last week, I don't know if you were here or if you saw
10:19:06 our meeting, but at the beginning of the meeting, we had
10:19:10 Holly greening from the Tampa Bay estuary program, and with
10:19:14 all the water quality things that you are talking about,
10:19:20 please be aware and take advantage.
10:19:23 They have 50 to $150,000 grants for water restoration
10:19:29 projects from the estuary program.
10:19:33 So we could be funding more work.
10:19:35 And I'm not sure exactly what things those would cover but
10:19:39 it's pretty broad.
10:19:42 You mentioned the Davis islands, sea grass.
10:19:46 >> The artificial reefs.
10:19:48 >>MARY MULHERN: Right.
10:19:50 So anything like that.
10:19:52 And might even cover some of the dredging that we are doing
10:19:55 and the canals.
10:20:02 Yes, it looks like solid waste is really doing a great job
10:20:05 with the increase in recycling.
10:20:09 And I would say I'm the same as you.
10:20:12 I'm now having much more recycling than garbage, which is
10:20:18 But the next generation, and what is really, really amazing
10:20:23 in solid waste is composting.
10:20:29 And I heard about this from my daughter who lives in
10:20:32 San Francisco.
10:20:32 80% of their garbage is now goes to composting.
10:20:45 So hopefully we will be looking at that.
10:20:47 And when you mentioned historic preservation I would like to
10:20:50 point out a couple of historic sites that the city is not
10:20:56 taking care of.
10:20:57 And I would like to see us do that.
10:21:00 And I know council has been behind and ahead of us -- on me
10:21:06 on this, but the Jackson house historic site that it would
10:21:10 make sense for us to support in some way and help them to
10:21:15 shore that up.
10:21:17 And Kiley Gardens, which used to have probably -- I don't
10:21:25 know how many but maybe 100 trees, which would be, you know,
10:21:31 carbon, providing shade, and being an incredible historic
10:21:37 And I would like to see us bring that back.
10:21:46 Oh, and then another thing I want to suggest that you put in
10:21:50 your next report that the Parks Department is doing a lot
10:21:57 with community and organic gardens in education and
10:22:04 providing those.
10:22:05 And they have even adopted -- they are doing an orchard
10:22:15 project at Rowlett park.
10:22:17 So those are some good things.
10:22:20 But, you know, I think the big picture things are tracking
10:22:26 our emissions, carbon output, and doing solar.
10:22:38 Thank you.
10:22:40 >>THOM SNELLING: I think I got it all.
10:22:41 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Well, Mrs. Mulhern hit on a lot of
10:22:47 things I was going to say.
10:22:48 But thank you inform that because I want to be mindful of
10:22:50 the time.
10:22:51 The things that I would like to bring up in addition to
10:22:55 fully supporting everything that Ms. Mulhern just said was a
10:23:00 long time ago when I worked on the green ordinance with the
10:23:06 previous council and getting that resolution on the books
10:23:09 was that a lot was talked about with providing incentives
10:23:14 for new buildings to conserve water and using gray water,
10:23:20 or, you know, the old-fashioned building a big hole in the
10:23:24 ground to retain water on-site was not something that we
10:23:29 wanted to do in the urban area, but it continues to be part
10:23:33 of our stormwater code.
10:23:35 And, you know, incentives can be instituted in a lot of
10:23:39 ways, and we do have the fast tracking, but I'm not sure
10:23:43 that that really was the building community is looking for
10:23:48 in ways to improve their reuse of water on-site.
10:23:55 So I would like to see some more work in that direction.
10:24:00 And how we can look at different strategies that would
10:24:05 encourage new buildings to retain their water on-site, not
10:24:10 just in a big hole in the ground but to reuse that water.
10:24:16 The water department has been doing a great job with the
10:24:19 build your own rebate program, but I would like to see
10:24:23 outreach efforts done for that because in the commercial
10:24:26 sector, I'm not sure how many commercial operations are
10:24:32 utilizing that program.
10:24:33 So maybe report with just some numbers and not a formal
10:24:37 report but just some numbers from Mr. Baird or from Mr.
10:24:41 Franco on how many businesses are actually utilizing that to
10:24:46 see if maybe we can step up our efforts to outreach to those
10:24:49 business owners.
10:24:54 This is something we see all over the city, and something I
10:24:57 have actually gotten complaints from the public about is the
10:25:00 trash that seems to be thrown out just about anywhere
10:25:05 without regard for the environment.
10:25:06 I know I walked my dog around the trail park and always end
10:25:13 up picking up trash along the lake there.
10:25:18 One thing I notice is there's only one trash bin, or two
10:25:23 trash bins in the entire 17-acre park, and none of them are
10:25:28 by the lake.
10:25:29 The solar compacter, trash bins that were featured in a
10:25:35 report, something we starred installing in 2010, would be
10:25:41 great to have in different parks around town or even on city
10:25:48 streets in places where we don't wants to have the solid
10:25:52 waste folks going on a regular routine basis.
10:25:55 But if you have a compacter, you know, once a month they
10:25:59 could go out there and empty that and would be plenty.
10:26:02 But I would like to see more use of those solar compacters.
10:26:06 I also met with some folks who were in the recycling
10:26:09 business who would like to be see something in the parks
10:26:14 where we have recreational activities, ballparks and such,
10:26:19 because during the season, there is a lot of trash and a lot
10:26:22 of recycling generated, but there's in a where toe put it.
10:26:26 So I think those solar compacters could come in handy there.
10:26:33 Awhile back, we had a workshop, and several experts in the
10:26:38 industry have come and talked to us about different
10:26:40 strategies that we would be utilizing, and I don't know that
10:26:46 we are really taking full advantage of that as Mrs. Mulhern
10:26:49 We have folks at USF who would be willing to volunteer their
10:26:53 expertise and time as far as capturing the numbers for our
10:26:58 carbon output or the savings that we had with all the
10:27:01 strategies that we have in place, to really talk about --
10:27:06 let's toot our Horne a little bit about all these great
10:27:09 programs that have been put into place over the years.
10:27:11 We are doing a great job but I don't know that we are
10:27:13 effectively measuring it.
10:27:15 So making use of those folks and the folks over at CH 2 hill
10:27:21 who have also, you know, dedicated or volunteered their time
10:27:24 to help us in that regard.
10:27:26 So I think that we have a lot of industry knowledge right
10:27:30 here in Tampa in taking advantage of that industry expertise
10:27:37 would bode well for us.
10:27:38 That being said, I know you mentioned the programs they are
10:27:44 working on but as far as I know they are not being
10:27:46 compensated for the work that they are doing.
10:27:48 So, you know, as much as we are doing and investing on our
10:27:56 own time, but individuals investing their time as well, and
10:28:02 I think as Mrs. Mulhern stated we as a city need to be a
10:28:06 leader and to show that we have a commitment sometimes to
10:28:09 institute some of these larger programs, we do have to pay
10:28:14 people in order to really say that we are committing to
10:28:19 these things and not just relying on volunteers to institute
10:28:25 some of these programs.
10:28:26 And it was in talking with some of the folks talking about
10:28:32 that composting issue and seeing how much is going out as
10:28:39 far as food waste, and I know in my own household as you
10:28:45 said anecdotally I have always generated more recycling but
10:28:49 since I started composting it's amazing how much I generate
10:28:54 just from the scratches from my kitchen with vegetables and
10:28:57 peelings and eggs shells and coffee grinds and things of
10:29:02 that nature.
10:29:02 And if I am doing that when I am not home to cook all the
10:29:06 time, I can imagine what a restaurant puts out on a daily
10:29:12 The last thing I want to mention, because again Ms. Mulhern
10:29:16 hit on everything else, was the TECO weatherization.
10:29:21 It is mentioned in here on the TECO energy task force page,
10:29:26 there is a page but it's not fully, I don't think, all the
10:29:30 goals that they stated.
10:29:31 There's only five here.
10:29:34 But one of them is weatherization.
10:29:38 And it's come to my attention that I think there's only one
10:29:41 company that TECO works with, and maybe two on the
10:29:46 commercial side.
10:29:47 In residential, there's many companies that they work with
10:29:51 for the residential weatherization program.
10:29:54 But on the commercial side not so much.
10:29:57 And when you talk about green buildings and carbon
10:30:04 emissions, a lot of people really carbon emissions with
10:30:08 cars, but it's the building environment.
10:30:10 It's the vertical environment, 40% comes from the built
10:30:19 So with these large commercial buildings I think we can step
10:30:21 up efforts by adding more than one or two contractors who
10:30:24 are out there working with business owners, building owners,
10:30:28 property owners, to step up their weatherization efforts.
10:30:33 So I think we can get a lot of bang for our buck.
10:30:40 And one other thing.
10:30:42 I just forwarded to you -- and I talked about Randy
10:30:46 Kleinworth with the energy star certification, the county
10:30:49 has been doing ongoing efforts.
10:30:51 And I just dug out the e-mail.
10:30:54 It was from February.
10:30:55 Sorry, I didn't e-mail it sooner.
10:30:57 But the that's now in your in-box and also in Ray Herbert's
10:31:04 inbox for the link to energy star programs for commercial
10:31:07 So maybe we can startles showing how many of our buildings
10:31:10 meet that standard, and also quantify that effort that we
10:31:17 have made.
10:31:18 Because I'm sure with everything we have been doing, we have
10:31:20 a lot of buildings out there and we can maybe become a city
10:31:25 that shows the efforts that we are making.
10:31:30 Thank you.
10:31:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
10:31:34 Mrs. Capin.
10:31:39 >>YVONNE CAPIN: It's interesting that the streetcar is on
10:31:42 here, the TECO streetcar.
10:31:44 I served on the board for three years, and one of the things
10:31:48 that at the state of the city speech that the mayor
10:31:52 emphasized that the public transportation does not pay for
10:31:58 So one of the things that we found with the TECO streetcar
10:32:02 was we kept cutting back on the hours in order to meet the
10:32:06 budget, to be able to sustain the streetcar.
10:32:10 And what's happened is because of that, the people that live
10:32:14 in the district that could take advantage of the streetcar
10:32:18 aren't because the hours that the streetcar is running does
10:32:23 not coincide with the hours that they need to get to work
10:32:28 and come home.
10:32:30 So what I found is that the streetcars, still the hours are
10:32:37 very limited, and again, we need to -- you know, we have a
10:32:43 system right now in place which is this street car.
10:32:48 And to expand it, to add to it, expand the loop, if you
10:32:57 will, to continue the loop with rubber trolley, would be
10:33:03 very helpful.
10:33:05 You know, we go back as a child, I rode the bus with my
10:33:13 I also road it by myself to get to my Girl Scout meetings.
10:33:17 Public transportation was very much part of everyone's life
10:33:28 I think we could utilize that streetcar a lot more.
10:33:31 We own it.
10:33:31 We should be enhancing it so that our citizens can take
10:33:34 advantage of it more.
10:33:39 And the mayor was absolutely right in that public
10:33:43 transportation has never paid for itself.
10:33:47 I don't know if it ever will, but it does not.
10:33:50 And we need to support it with our tax dollars.
10:33:55 As far as their recycling, the recycling part, I'm very
10:33:59 happy to get my recycling cart last week.
10:34:03 However, my daughter, who lives literally ten blocks from
10:34:07 me, but on the other side of Kennedy Boulevard, had hers a
10:34:11 year ago.
10:34:11 And one of the things I found was that I know that Dade
10:34:14 County, when they put out their recycling, they did it all
10:34:20 at one time.
10:34:21 And I remember when it came to us that we were talking
10:34:24 about, it was going to be put out in sections, and the areas
10:34:29 that were highest recyclers were going to get their carts
10:34:34 Well, I found something out.
10:34:36 When my husband passed away, who was the one who took the
10:34:41 blue box out, that when that blue box, when that newspaper
10:34:45 and that cardboard gets wet, and wove tons of rain here, I
10:34:49 was dragging that cart out, and I'm so grateful that I got
10:34:54 my blue recycling cart because I had decided that I wasn't
10:34:57 going to do that anymore.
10:34:58 And I was putting my recycling in my car and taking it to my
10:35:02 daughter's house and putting it in her cart.
10:35:08 >>THOM SNELLING: Well, God bless you.
10:35:09 [ Laughter ]
10:35:11 >> My daughter said you have to care about your grandson's
10:35:14 future, and I do.
10:35:16 But I think that what Dade County found and what we are
10:35:20 probably going to see here is when they put their carts out
10:35:24 at all times their recycling went from the teens like 17% to
10:35:28 like 60 or 70, somewhere in there.
10:35:31 It was a very high number.
10:35:32 It jumped very much.
10:35:33 And I realized why.
10:35:35 And it was because you have the areas where you have lower
10:35:37 recycling, where you have elderly people, single women, men,
10:35:44 that are not able to, and that could very well have been
10:35:49 part of why we have lower recycling.
10:35:53 But I'm glad to hear the carts, they are now out in the
10:35:58 entire city?
10:36:03 >>THOM SNELLING: I think so but that's something I can check
10:36:05 very quickly.
10:36:08 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I would like to track those numbers.
10:36:11 Maybe we can do a competition with Dade County, see if our
10:36:15 numbers go up as fast as theirs did.
10:36:18 But that's all I have to say.
10:36:20 Oh, and composting.
10:36:22 I want you to know, it brought back 35, almost 40 years ago,
10:36:30 visiting my husband's family in Spain.
10:36:35 I was so surprised that there was absolutely no trash.
10:36:39 There was no trash and I couldn't figure out why.
10:36:43 They compost.
10:36:45 This was 40 years ago.
10:36:48 And I'm looking at it.
10:36:50 And I thought it was so novel.
10:36:54 But to them it was a way of life.
10:36:56 It was the way they conducted their every day.
10:37:00 I even remember asking -- the grandmother asking me if I had
10:37:05 any stockings to mend.
10:37:06 And I looked at her with a very puzzled look, and she said
10:37:10 oh, yes, you are American.
10:37:12 You throw away everything.
10:37:13 40 years ago she said that to me. Anyway, thank you.
10:37:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Mr. Suarez?
10:37:19 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thom, thanks for the report.
10:37:21 It was very thorough.
10:37:22 We appreciate all the things that you are doing and leading
10:37:26 a lot of these initiatives and making sure that the rest is
10:37:31 the same.
10:37:32 A quick question about the garbage trucks.
10:37:36 You mentioned in the report that you are looking at a
10:37:38 temporary refueling site until a permanent one is selected.
10:37:42 Have you contacted Hart which is now opening a new CNG site?
10:37:48 And we have the airport park, two of the entities that are
10:37:52 currently doing CNG stations to find out if we can use it,
10:37:58 A, either on a temporary basis, or, B, on a permanent basis
10:38:03 to save cost in terms of -- the costs when you have to build
10:38:08 one is a lot more than if you are partnering with someone
10:38:11 So I wasn't sure if that's something that you or solid
10:38:14 waste --
10:38:16 >>THOM SNELLING: Mark Wilfork, he was here last week.
10:38:21 He's just getting his feet wet.
10:38:22 I'll check with him to see what the status is.
10:38:25 Because solid waste, environmental management, was leading
10:38:28 that effort to either have an agreement with somebody or to
10:38:32 lease space or whatever, because they have the trucks.
10:38:35 >>MIKE SUAREZ: The only suggestion is if you are going to
10:38:38 look at it, lease or even something on a temporary basis, I
10:38:42 know you are going to have to look at the way that we do
10:38:45 our -- we optimize our schedules, our routes, and sometimes
10:38:50 it may not be the right spot for it in terms of refueling.
10:38:54 But on a temporary basis, you could probably get that done
10:38:57 fairly quickly.
10:38:59 There's a significant one down in -- not Port Tampa, near
10:39:03 the -- well, port Tampa Bay, I guess now, that just opened
10:39:09 And that is close enough to our solid waste facility, down
10:39:16 in that area that you might want to look at that.
10:39:19 In addition, we are going to be opening up one I think in
10:39:22 April that is a new Hart CNG.
10:39:25 There's one near the airport that is currently up and
10:39:28 running, if I am not mistaken.
10:39:30 So there's a lot of facilities already open and running.
10:39:33 It may be something as simple as doing some kind of cost
10:39:36 sharing or buying, at a particular time, so that you can
10:39:40 fill up the CNG trucks, especially since we have a small
10:39:46 number right now, and as we build out, figuring out what
10:39:50 those routes are and figuring out if we can use and partner
10:39:53 with some of these other public entities so that we don't
10:39:55 have to reinvents the wheel on this and get more bang for
10:40:00 our buck.
10:40:04 Thank you.
10:40:09 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Are you finished, Mr. Snelling?
10:40:10 I assume you are.
10:40:11 >> Yes.
10:40:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Anyone in the public to speak on item
10:40:17 number 4, please come forward.
10:40:18 I see no one.
10:40:19 So we will go to item number 5.
10:40:23 Thank you very much for that report.
10:40:24 And I hope to see it coming up close to Hillsborough Avenue.
10:40:33 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Planning and development.
10:40:36 First item, I just wanted to note, because the motion has
10:40:41 two different parts to it.
10:40:43 But the second part was actually cleared up in November.
10:40:46 Mr. Cohen was the chair at that time, and he did make a note
10:40:51 in the transcript and had me confirm that the item about the
10:40:56 short term rentals that council had already made the motion
10:41:00 to change the seven-day provision to 30 days.
10:41:03 So I highlighted that just to maybe clear the second part of
10:41:06 the motion doesn't apply.
10:41:07 We were just talking about bed and breakfast.
10:41:18 In the handout, we had decided to come forward in a public
10:41:21 workshop setting because it's one of the previous
10:41:23 conversations we had about bed and breakfast, in particular
10:41:27 the concept of a couple of council members, maybe expanding
10:41:30 it into single-family districts as well.
10:41:32 This is the handout that I gave you last May that gave
10:41:36 you -- this is a spin-off from the changes that you had made
10:41:40 to the bed and breakfast definition, rooming house
10:41:44 definition, dwelling definition.
10:41:46 We had a whole list of definitions that we tweaked making
10:41:51 them more in line with the definitions of different units
10:41:53 and housing, defining transient and nontransient, so I
10:41:58 included the former definition, and then the current
10:42:01 definition which you all adopted in 2013.
10:42:07 And I had noted where bed and breakfast is permitted.
10:42:10 I think there was the idea originally that maybe we had
10:42:13 prohibited bed and breakfast in the city which is not
10:42:16 They are allowed by right in residential office district,
10:42:21 office district, commercial, certain Ybor districts, Channel
10:42:25 District, Seminole Heights district.
10:42:27 And they are -- special used a might have special use in
10:42:32 multifamily districts.
10:42:33 So they are prohibited in the city but only in single-family
10:42:39 And then I included the special use criteria as well.
10:42:42 And this does apply again to the multifamily district.
10:42:45 And the one thing that I noted at the bottom, which this was
10:42:53 odd to me because if you have an RS-50, it allows 50 units
10:42:58 per acre, very high intensity district.
10:43:00 The special use criteria would only allow you to have three
10:43:07 My suggestion would be let it to default which allows the
10:43:14 rental and then decide how many can fit in there.
10:43:18 The second page, second set of pages I gave you, the
10:43:25 original one I gave you last year was from 2012.
10:43:28 I updated 2013 although none of the language actually
10:43:32 But I highlight add couple items for you.
10:43:34 Transient public lodging establishments is where the bed and
10:43:37 breakfast falls in.
10:43:46 They have to be licensed as a public lodging establishment.
10:43:49 So it's a single-family home structure where you have
10:43:52 someone living there full time as their home, but they are
10:43:56 renting a commercial business.
10:43:57 It is a home-based hotel.
10:44:00 These the best way I can describe it.
10:44:01 So it is licensed by the state.
10:44:04 And there are certain regulations that go along with that.
10:44:10 What they call a bed and breakfast inn, and modified for
10:44:18 certain public lodging establishments, provides
10:44:20 accommodation, and this is generally offered by bed and
10:44:24 breakfast, and which is recognized as bed and breakfast and
10:44:28 in the community by which it's situated or by the
10:44:32 hospitality industry.
10:44:33 The item before you at this point is whether or not to --
10:44:39 the discussion where it led was whether or not to allow it
10:44:41 in single-family district.
10:44:42 And I talked to you in the past about provisions in the
10:44:44 building code and the fire code, and I did verify with the
10:44:48 fire marshal's office previously and I noted previously when
10:44:51 you switch to whether it's home based, hotel, bed and
10:44:56 breakfast, there is a cost associated with running a
10:44:59 sprinkler system and installing it, and then the building
10:45:02 code for a typical 2 bedroom 2 bath house, the occupancy
10:45:08 load isn't going to change so there wouldn't be too many
10:45:11 building code changes if at all.
10:45:13 You will have a sprinkler system that allows it to be put
10:45:16 in, and accommodate the parking ratios for the use itself.
10:45:21 You will have a small parking lot that matches up with the
10:45:26 The number of units that you have.
10:45:29 The policy decision that council has to make about --
10:45:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Excuse me a second.
10:45:34 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Before you go on to any of the other
10:45:40 issues, can we talk about the sprinkler system issue for one
10:45:50 I was at the last Suncoast League of Cities he had meeting
10:45:53 that was held in Temple Terrace, and Karl Nurse from
10:45:59 St. Petersburg brought this up at the meeting.
10:46:00 And we were talking about the requirement for commercial
10:46:03 buildings and restroom fitting of older buildings with the
10:46:09 new sprinkler codes from the state.
10:46:13 Well, actually, national fire standard, fire safety -- that
10:46:20 one -- and how difficult it is.
10:46:22 And in St. Petersburg according to what he had said that
10:46:27 date seeing a decrease in the numbers of redevelopment of
10:46:31 buildings, because it's so onerous of a requirement, and I
10:46:38 would extrapolate that to apply here, because, you know, you
10:46:43 are the traditional profile of who is going to open a bed
10:46:47 and breakfast, and, you know, a couple that either retired,
10:46:51 or, you know, want to maybe live and work together and
10:46:58 utilize maybe in a historic district like Ybor a home that
10:47:03 they renovated, the addition of putting in a sprinkler
10:47:07 system in a historic property in a house, and you are going
10:47:12 to find is where the bed and breakfast generally congregates
10:47:16 in a historic district is so astronomical that it is beyond
10:47:23 reasonable to comply.
10:47:25 So is there any information that you can impart about the
10:47:32 current sprinkler code and historic buildings or
10:47:36 retrofitting existing buildings to meet that code?
10:47:42 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Well, I am not the fire marshal so -- I
10:47:46 can tell you that there has been that rub over time with
10:47:50 historic rehabilitation, period, for commercial buildings,
10:47:53 just like you mentioned that they talk about in St. Pete.
10:47:56 It can be expensive to redo systems, especially in buildings
10:48:01 that you are trying to reoccupy.
10:48:05 Tens of thousands.
10:48:06 That's write was going to get to on the bed and breakfast
10:48:08 because there's such a cost associated with it, and where
10:48:11 are you going to get your return?
10:48:13 You are not going to get it in the central part of the city
10:48:16 or the northern part of the estimate you are probably going
10:48:18 to get it in the more expensive area.
10:48:20 That's one thing I want to talk about in the policy
10:48:23 But I can tell you that we can't write a rule that exempts
10:48:26 them from it.
10:48:28 It's a state rule, that fire marshal has to enforce.
10:48:33 If you want to change that rule, it's at a different level.
10:48:36 It's not locally.
10:48:38 It is what it is.
10:48:41 Until someone much higher than us changes it.
10:48:44 So those that.
10:48:47 If you want a full detail on it, then I would ask the fire
10:48:50 marshal to come and explain the rules.
10:48:52 >>LISA MONTELIONE: And I'm thinking what Councilman nurse
10:48:57 is talking about at that meeting was doing just that, and in
10:49:03 getting the Suncoast League of Cities to work with the
10:49:05 Florida League of Cities to see if there was any
10:49:10 modifications that could be made to accommodate the historic
10:49:16 buildings or older structures for redevelopment.
10:49:19 >>CATHERINE COYLE: That's the level it has to happen.
10:49:27 >>YVONNE CAPIN: That's exactly where I was going with the
10:49:30 sprinkler system because we heard about it.
10:49:32 And the cultural assets committee looked into the bed and
10:49:35 breakfast and actually that was one of our recommendations
10:49:38 back in, oh, my gosh, well over a year ago, was to look at
10:49:44 bed and breakfasts in the city.
10:49:46 The other thing is that this is a law that is in place at a
10:49:57 higher level.
10:50:01 And we know that bed and breakfasts are going to find their
10:50:04 way into historic districts.
10:50:06 And we have older homes, older buildings there.
10:50:09 And as part of encouraging bed and breakfasts in these
10:50:14 areas, maybe we could look at, as a county, and the city
10:50:20 with incentives as we see the facade grants, and maybe we
10:50:27 can offer help to these places that do want to open a bed
10:50:35 and breakfast in a historic district, offer a grant or
10:50:40 grants to help.
10:50:41 But that would have to be, you know, the county and the city
10:50:45 together in that.
10:50:47 And that would be one way of encouraging our historic
10:50:51 tourism, which is a very high dollar volume tourist, and
10:50:57 hopefully we can work on that.
10:50:59 But that's the only other Avenue.
10:51:02 It is very expensive to do.
10:51:04 And it's discouraging local private enterprise from taking
10:51:12 And maybe we could look at -- I know that Baltimore has --
10:51:21 it's a very dense city, and they have dozens and dozens of
10:51:26 bed and breakfasts in their core.
10:51:28 And I would like to see how St. Augustine dealt with the
10:51:34 sprinkler system and their bed and breakfasts, and if there
10:51:39 was any help from their municipalities in order for these
10:51:43 enterprises to take place.
10:51:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Anyone else at this time?
10:51:48 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Just to wrap up quickly, and I will
10:51:54 leave it to the public.
10:51:55 I think there are a couple people who want to speak about
10:51:58 But back to the single-family, it is purely a policy
10:52:01 But I would get the council to think about is our
10:52:05 single-family districts are geographically the largest in
10:52:08 the city.
10:52:08 They cover wide areas, all different types of neighborhoods.
10:52:13 And different types of streets and capacities on those
10:52:16 Most of them have a lot of local roads going through them.
10:52:20 So I have in the past mentioned maybe if you are looking at
10:52:22 expanding in single-family that if we are talking about
10:52:28 historic district is to highlight those areas where we think
10:52:33 they would be going.
10:52:33 I don't know so much that you will have bed and breakfast in
10:52:36 the middle of the neighborhood in the central part of the
10:52:39 city that's not near water or any areas of the city that the
10:52:42 would draw tourists.
10:52:43 So there may be opportunities to try to scale it down a
10:52:46 little bit and low for the appropriate places to allow it.
10:52:50 If it's carte blanche across the city, I think quite frankly
10:52:54 with the cost associated that are on the table now of
10:52:56 converting these buildings, I really think the only place
10:52:59 you are going to get that is where land and buildings are
10:53:02 worth more, people have more expendable income to make those
10:53:06 conversions and those might be the areas that people don't
10:53:09 wants them.
10:53:09 I'm talking about South Tampa versus central Tampa,
10:53:15 I just want council to be cautious of where we think we want
10:53:18 to go with it, what areas of the city we actually think we
10:53:21 are trying to allow the core, and then just finishing with
10:53:25 my recommendation on the multifamily, I think it makes total
10:53:27 sense to fix that particular piece, because the numbers
10:53:32 don't match.
10:53:33 Which would free up the multifamily districts
10:53:39 That's all I have.
10:53:40 I believe there are members of the public.
10:53:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Mr. Suarez?
10:53:43 Thank you, Mrs. Capin.
10:53:46 >>MIKE SUAREZ: You made a pretty realistic case in what it
10:53:51 would actually mean if someone wanted to open a bed and
10:53:56 The life safety issue that the state controls such as
10:53:59 sprinkler systems, it will make it extremely expensive no
10:54:03 matter where you are at.
10:54:04 The question I had, though, let's say we allow bed and
10:54:09 breakfast, on a limited basis, let's say, and places that we
10:54:14 might think have an interest in Ybor City or Seminole
10:54:16 Heights or somewhere along the water.
10:54:19 How does that change in terms of parking requirements when
10:54:23 they are now in a single-family district?
10:54:26 I could see where even if you have, you know, three
10:54:30 locations -- excuse me, three units in a particular location
10:54:35 that, you know, unless we are going to have extensive trains
10:54:40 it now, it's going to be difficult for them to get there
10:54:42 other than through cabs or other public services.
10:54:47 So how does that change their requirement as now a business
10:54:51 in a single-family district for parking requirements?
10:54:55 Because we already have issues with a lot of the historical
10:54:59 You know, places that have tight parking, you know.
10:55:05 And I will give a great example.
10:55:07 If you go somewhere near the corner of Bay to Bay and
10:55:10 MacDill, and you go to that neighborhood, which would
10:55:12 probably be a neighborhood that would be close enough to the
10:55:16 Bayshore and to some of the other amenities, that parking is
10:55:23 awful for people who are in single-family homes.
10:55:25 And there are some multifamily around there, too.
10:55:28 How does that affect if we decide to make this change?
10:55:33 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Well, the general parking table applies
10:55:36 There are specific parking tables for Ybor, Seminole
10:55:39 Heights, Channel District and downtown, that has different
10:55:42 But the general requirement city-wide, doesn't matter what
10:55:46 district you are in.
10:55:46 It's the use that you have, that you are actually putting
10:55:49 So in the case of having a bed and breakfast with five or
10:55:52 six units you are going to have an equal number of parking
10:55:56 So you are going to have what could be a 50 or 60-foot lot
10:56:00 with a house on it, then you have to figure out how to put
10:56:02 the parking.
10:56:03 You have got to put in some type of parking lot.
10:56:06 Even on a residential scale, some type of parking lot.
10:56:10 You are going to have to have a handicapped space as well.
10:56:13 So the constraints of the property might also not allow that
10:56:18 type of conversion.
10:56:20 The parking ratio is something that we control locally,
10:56:24 So in the past, we have seen with certain uses where council
10:56:26 has gone in and said, okay, let's review parking requirement
10:56:30 across the board.
10:56:31 Then he would get into an issue where you have parking
10:56:35 especially intruding into the neighborhood and we have
10:56:38 residential parking permit area.
10:56:39 So there's an answer for things, but I just want us to think
10:56:43 a little ahead --
10:56:45 >>MIKE SUAREZ: If I'm --
10:56:50 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Especially if it's buried in a
10:56:52 >>MIKE SUAREZ: And if we are looking at a true bed and
10:56:55 breakfast where there's a manager on-site providing hot
10:56:58 meals to someone -- I mean, we had this discussion ad
10:57:00 nauseam in terms of what a real bed and breakfast really
10:57:04 is -- the difficulty is, how do you actually run the
10:57:08 Once you have a property that you think might want to be a
10:57:12 bed and breakfast.
10:57:13 If an historical district or a historical property,
10:57:17 something, the amount of time and money that you are going
10:57:20 to have to spend to meet the life safety issues that the
10:57:24 state requires, and in addition the parking requirement that
10:57:28 we require, it's going to be almost impossible for someone
10:57:30 to really set up a bed and breakfast in a single-family
10:57:35 I mean, that's my guess.
10:57:37 You know, you do a thumbnail about what that cost is going
10:57:40 to be.
10:57:41 In addition to the house and whatever renovations you have
10:57:44 to do just to make it livable for people to come and enjoy
10:57:47 it as a bed and breakfast, then on top of that, all the
10:57:50 zoning costs that you are going to have to have when you
10:57:53 come back to us, because I think you mentioned special use
10:57:56 permit right now for single-family, correct?
10:58:01 >> No.
10:58:02 >> Prohibited in the city?
10:58:06 >>CATHERINE COYLE: If you are going to go to single-family I
10:58:07 would say a special use.
10:58:09 A special 1.
10:58:10 They meet the two criteria, they get it.
10:58:13 >> Well, to actually make the parking amenable to meet our
10:58:19 planning guidelines.
10:58:20 I mean, it's going to be so many --
10:58:24 >>CATHERINE COYLE: That's my point because the predominant
10:58:26 district is a typical lot.
10:58:29 It's difficult to make meet the parking and all the
10:58:31 conversions, especially with the city generally speaking to
10:58:37 have that -- I think to fit everything on the land, my gut
10:58:41 feeling is that where it's going to happen are in the
10:58:44 districts with bigger property and the houses where you can
10:58:48 absorb for those costs because the houses are larger, they
10:58:50 are worth more, you can spend the money to convert it, newer
10:58:53 an area that's closer to the water and closer to other
10:58:56 things, 75 and 100 fat lots you can accommodate more.
10:58:58 >> Which section of the town usually has 75 to 100-foot
10:59:02 >> South of Kennedy.
10:59:06 >> Well, I was going to ask --
10:59:09 >> South of Kennedy.
10:59:10 >>MIKE SUAREZ: Thank you, chair.
10:59:13 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you.
10:59:14 Anyone else?
10:59:14 Anyone in the public care to speak on this item, item number
10:59:33 >>MARGARET VIZZI: 213 South Sherrill.
10:59:35 It takes me a little longer to maneuver up here but I don't
10:59:39 have the pain at least.
10:59:41 Council, T.H.A.N. has been watching this very closely ever
10:59:43 since you began talking about it.
10:59:47 Of course, we haven't taken an official position because we
10:59:50 don't know what you are going to come up with.
10:59:53 But I will say that when it was brought up that it was hoped
10:59:57 that what is on the books now will be the way it stays.
11:00:03 As far as doing away with the sprinkler system, I think
11:00:08 that's in there for the safety of those who are in there,
11:00:13 the cooking, et cetera, not that you don't have cooking in a
11:00:19 home, but it becomes a small hotel.
11:00:26 So that's why I'm pretty sure that the state has put it on
11:00:30 the same regulations as the hotel.
11:00:35 But as far as the T.H.A.N. members, we are taking no
11:00:40 official position.
11:00:41 But when it was brought up in discussion, the feeling was
11:00:46 that it should stay the way they are.
11:00:51 And I know that if you change it, as Cathy just said, making
11:00:58 it S-2 would be very important because bringing the
11:01:00 neighbors in to bring us the issues would be very, very
11:01:10 So that's all I can give you right now.
11:01:12 But we will be watching it very carefully along with all the
11:01:16 other things that are coming up, too.
11:01:19 So thank you.
11:01:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you.
11:01:20 Anyone else in the audience care to speak on item number 5?
11:01:24 I see no one.
11:01:25 We'll move to item number 6.
11:01:43 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Planning and development again.
11:01:45 I'll be brief.
11:01:46 I'm kind of emceeing this.
11:01:48 The document you have is not the code amendment.
11:01:50 It's the updated Westshore district, public realm master
11:01:55 I'm sending you a copy for reference.
11:01:57 I know it's been presented to you in the past, and I believe
11:02:00 Mr. Rotella came last year at least once to discuss it with
11:02:05 Did start working on the update for this plan in late 2012
11:02:08 and all the way through 2013.
11:02:13 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Did you produce this?
11:02:16 >>CATHERINE COYLE: No.
11:02:18 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Westshore.
11:02:20 >>CATHERINE COYLE: It's from the Westshore Alliance.
11:02:22 I'm just giving it to you for reference in case you want to
11:02:24 work through it.
11:02:26 The code that's before you is the Westshore overlay district
11:02:30 already exists, the most recent amendment that's before you
11:02:34 privately initiated from the Westshore Alliance is -- the
11:02:39 information that's in the new regulations are derived from
11:02:42 that plan, and they deal with the public realm improvement.
11:02:46 So there are some tweaks in the dimensional standards of
11:02:49 sidewalks and so on, how those are tweeted.
11:02:52 There's not a massive change in the rest of the regulations.
11:02:56 A lot of clean-up just bringing it in line with the master
11:03:00 We have -- did hold a public meeting in December and I did
11:03:06 supply you with a list of attendees to that as well.
11:03:10 And Mr. Cohen is here to give you a presentation as well.
11:03:15 >>> Randy Coen, West Cypress street here on behalf of
11:03:26 Westshore Alliance and I serve as chairman of the master
11:03:28 plan committee.
11:03:29 We have a Power Point presentation but it's a rather brief
11:03:33 And I'll make it as painless as I can and summarize the
11:03:36 changes that are in the overlay.
11:03:42 As Cathy said, what we are really doing is updating the
11:03:49 overlay to make it consistent with the master plan that you
11:03:52 had a presentation on last year.
11:03:53 There we are.
11:03:54 Basically we are just updating the overlay and really
11:03:57 dealing with the public realm area, that being public
11:04:00 right-of-way, et cetera, and the arrangement of streets.
11:04:02 This is actually, if you will, the guiding exhibit within
11:04:05 that master plan, talking about connectivity, trying to
11:04:09 influence pedestrian connection of areas, et cetera, and
11:04:13 that's what the overlay actually updates at this point.
11:04:16 Just to go back a little bit.
11:04:18 Overlay was originally approved in 2001, been amended a few
11:04:23 It only applies to a limited amount of things.
11:04:26 First it only applies to new construction, major renovation,
11:04:30 or change of use.
11:04:33 More particularly it only applies to dense multifamily
11:04:36 projects and commercial properties.
11:04:38 That is land uses that have the ability for those things to
11:04:41 be constructed.
11:04:42 It does not affect single-family homes.
11:04:44 It does not affect single-family areas whatsoever.
11:04:47 So if you are building something new, it applies.
11:04:51 If you are renovating something more than 51% of its value
11:04:54 it applies.
11:04:55 And if you are changing use it applies to the extent that it
11:04:59 be reasonably applied.
11:05:01 And basically the overlay itself has always been set up with
11:05:05 four different types of roadways.
11:05:07 Pedestrian priority, which are basically the multi-lane
11:05:10 roads in Westshore that are not state roads.
11:05:12 Regional roadways which are the state roads in Westshore.
11:05:15 Local commercial streets.
11:05:24 Neighborhood streets.
11:05:25 These are not subdivision streets.
11:05:27 These are the other streets in the -- this does not apply to
11:05:32 subdivision streets themselves.
11:05:34 Basically, here is a lab at the streets.
11:05:36 As you can see the pedestrian priorities, which are the
11:05:39 non-state roads that are multi-lane primarily, state roads.
11:05:44 We have by the way in the regional roadways Columbus drive.
11:05:47 That's because we always heard of spruce street, Boy Scout,
11:05:51 Columbus drive.
11:05:52 It's hard to tell which is which.
11:05:54 We wanted to make this clear so we have Columbus drive into
11:05:57 the school.
11:05:57 >> Imagine that, a street with three names.
11:06:01 >> It's amazing.
11:06:03 And trying to find out the legal determination of one to the
11:06:06 other is a very fun thing.
11:06:07 Let me tell you.
11:06:08 Let's move on so we can go back to the slide.
11:06:16 And talk about the local commercial streets.
11:06:19 Those are our two-lane streets in Westshore that are truly
11:06:21 commercial in nature.
11:06:22 And then neighborhood streets which are some of the
11:06:24 significant captain two lane streets but they are not
11:06:26 subdivision streets.
11:06:27 These are not streets within Beach Park or Bon Air or any of
11:06:31 the other neighborhoods within Westshore.
11:06:35 Basically, when you look at what we are really changing,
11:06:37 primarily we focus on sidewalks.
11:06:39 When you see the column, it shows wove ranges of sidewalk, 6
11:06:45 to 12 feet, 6 to 10, 5 to 8.
11:06:47 We have done extensive review of right-of-way in the area.
11:06:51 The feasibility of building sidewalks, as a matter of fact,
11:06:53 the City of Tampa is completing a complete street study on
11:06:56 Westshore Boulevard right now.
11:06:58 We have come up with proposals on specific sidewalks that we
11:07:03 believe are achievable, and that is basically Westshore
11:07:06 being specially treated with a 14-foot sidewalk, pedestrian
11:07:11 priority streets primarily 10 feet with 8 feet along on most
11:07:17 of the sidewalks.
11:07:18 I'm sorry, 8 feet on all the other streets.
11:07:23 Everything on Dale Mabry, those are actually 10-foot
11:07:27 sidewalks to give you an idea.
11:07:29 That's why regional corridors are 10-foot sidewalks.
11:07:32 Local commercial 6-foot sidewalks.
11:07:34 Neighborhood streets 5 to 6-foot sidewalks.
11:07:37 That's actually the city's current standard, depending on
11:07:41 the alignment of the sidewalk and its adjacency.
11:07:52 We are requiring trees both near the street and at the balk
11:07:56 sidewalk on Westshore.
11:07:58 We have got some exhibits to show you that.
11:07:59 So we'll have a nice tree canopy on the sidewalk along
11:08:04 All the other streets remain exactly as the code is today.
11:08:08 This is an illustration of Westshore Boulevard and what's
11:08:12 being proposed.
11:08:12 As you can see we have the street -- we have a buffer tree
11:08:20 which is actually on the backside of the sidewalk in
11:08:23 Westshore Boulevard.
11:08:24 The sidewalk would be 14 feet 10 inches.
11:08:26 The actual walkable area where you see those folks walking
11:08:29 is a clear 9-foot area.
11:08:31 We put 4-foot 10 inches from the curb to the clear walkable
11:08:36 That's the tree, street furniture, trash receptacles, bus
11:08:43 So those are all put in and we have a very clear path for
11:08:46 sidewalks as well.
11:08:47 And another illustration just basically a planned view where
11:08:50 you can see we have the trees at 30-foot centers.
11:08:53 We stagger the ones on the buffer behind the sidewalk with
11:08:56 the ones that are up near the street curb.
11:08:58 So basically 15 feet so we can establish a shade canopy
11:09:04 which is very important to get people out of the cars and
11:09:07 walking up and down Westshore especially with shall the new
11:09:09 restaurants in Westshore, other developments along Westshore
11:09:12 and being anchored at both ends for regional mall.
11:09:17 We have a good opportunity to walk.
11:09:21 Most of the people are tourists and not those living here.
11:09:23 We have some shade, street furniture, shade structures
11:09:28 I think we'll see a lot more people walking on Westshore
11:09:30 Boulevard and that is the goal of this particular
11:09:33 This is just a typical plan, full, of construction of the
11:09:38 It is very consistent with Kennedy.
11:09:41 The Kennedy overlay and the requirements of that.
11:09:43 The two rows of brick by the edge on the gutter.
11:09:47 Tree wells for trees themselves and a little bit of scoring
11:09:52 on the sidewalk to make it a little more interesting than
11:09:54 just having a big slab of concrete by itself.
11:09:57 This is a typical illustration of the other roadways,
11:10:00 whether they be priority pedestrian, regional, commercial,
11:10:05 or neighborhood, basically the same orchestration, same
11:10:11 buffer as normally required would be there as well.
11:10:15 The grass area between the cushioned the sidewalk.
11:10:21 Basically we are doing some other changes.
11:10:24 And one of them is we are strengthening the definitions in
11:10:27 the overlay talking about the building supply, front door
11:10:31 facing the street being connected to the street.
11:10:33 We provided some alternative for those buildings but we are
11:10:37 making that much clearer on Kennedy Boulevard as well as
11:10:42 So we are strengthening that a little bit.
11:10:44 Found out the overlay in the current establishment really
11:10:48 didn't speak specifically to facilities that provide gas
11:10:54 stations, et cetera, so we put in a good deal of information
11:10:56 on the orientation of gas pumps and how they work with
11:11:00 convenience stores.
11:11:02 We had an interesting situation where we had one principal
11:11:06 parking use in Westshore which is very unusual.
11:11:10 Principal parking is the use of the property, and we found
11:11:13 out the overlay really didn't address.
11:11:15 That so we put in standards for that which are exactly the
11:11:18 same thing as the Westshore overlay right now.
11:11:21 They are required to have a 30-foot setback from the
11:11:24 right-of-way, landscaping in that setback area.
11:11:27 Finally, we are talking about open space areas which on that
11:11:32 very first slide that when showed, the overall connecting of
11:11:36 places and sidewalks, we had small and large pedestrian
11:11:40 corners, if you will.
11:11:42 This is an illustration of where those would be at.
11:11:45 The small ones are 20 by 20.
11:11:47 The larger ones are 40 by 40 square foot corners, if you
11:11:51 We provided a good deal of incentives for developers to do.
11:11:54 That we also provide for them to have development rights, 18
11:11:57 feet above the finished grade, if you will.
11:12:01 So we can have arcades, et cetera.
11:12:02 But they provide some interesting thoughts for people to
11:12:06 rest, to gather, and to have some interest along the way
11:12:10 And as you can see, basically all set up about a quarter
11:12:14 mile apart from each other to some extent a half mile
11:12:17 accessible of areas which are quarter mile pretty
11:12:21 comfortable walking distance for an individual.
11:12:23 So that in a nutshell is what we are really proposing in the
11:12:26 It's not a significant amount of changes.
11:12:28 But the master plan allowed would be more detail in the
11:12:33 overlay and that's what we present to you today.
11:12:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
11:12:37 I have Mrs. Capin and Mrs. Mulhern.
11:12:43 >>YVONNE CAPIN: (off microphone) and you're right.
11:12:46 I'm amazed at the amount of the people that are walking on
11:12:51 And I walk into the Walgreens on the corner of Kennedy and
11:12:56 Dale Mabry and they have an entire section of T-shirts and
11:12:59 all this other for tourists.
11:13:02 My concern -- and Westshore and Kennedy, what do we have for
11:13:10 The safety factor of crossing those streets.
11:13:12 >> We have been working with the Department of
11:13:14 Transportation and the city.
11:13:16 As a matter of fact, you will see some improvements when the
11:13:19 D.O.T. moves forward this October with a resurfacing of
11:13:23 They are going to bring out a new set of standards for
11:13:26 crosswalks, et cetera, signal time for pedestrians, and we
11:13:29 are hopeful that it ultimately applies within Westshore,
11:13:34 really comes down to a funding issue for us.
11:13:36 If we can fund it we can do it.
11:13:38 We are very concerned about pedestrians, really led the
11:13:42 charge in the simulated brick paves for the crosswalks, that
11:13:46 tend to give you a better idea from the vehicle that
11:13:49 something is going on there, people are a little more
11:13:52 We have been dealing with the D.O.T., intensifying the
11:13:55 crosswalks from the standpoint of making pedestrians stand
11:13:58 out more in those crosswalks.
11:13:59 But because we have large intersections we still have a
11:14:02 problem of not a lot of time to get from point A to point B
11:14:07 across so we are working with that as well.
11:14:10 >>YVONNE CAPIN: And glad to hear that because I do watch
11:14:12 those tourists walking along the street.
11:14:15 And as I am driving along, and are right now with the
11:14:19 expressway being worked on, it's even more congested with
11:14:24 The other thing I was wondering about -- and I also wondered
11:14:28 when I go to the airport and I am leaving the airport or the
11:14:30 post office at the airport, and I think about our tourists,
11:14:35 new people coming into town, have you looked at these three
11:14:41 names for those streets?
11:14:43 And the confusion that it could bring to people driving a
11:14:47 rental car out of the airport onto Spruce?
11:14:50 And then it turns into Boy Scout, and then it turns into
11:14:53 Columbus because they are not on the right street, and then
11:14:56 coming --
11:14:58 >> Randy Coen: It is confusing.
11:15:01 It is something we would like to straighten out.
11:15:03 Wouldn't be part of the overlay but it's certainly on our
11:15:06 radar screen.
11:15:07 We have some way finding and some gateway opportunities as
11:15:11 So certainly that's one of those things that it's confusing
11:15:14 to everyone including those of us that lived there all our
11:15:20 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I know it's not anything that was presented
11:15:22 today but when you brought up the three streets I did wonder
11:15:25 about that, about how our people, as you said, it true.
11:15:30 I'm afraid to exit on Spruce.
11:15:32 I'm not sure where I am going to wind up. Anyway, thank
11:15:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I know where you are going to wind up.
11:15:39 You are going to wind up lost like all of us.
11:15:41 But anyway, Mrs. Mulhern.
11:15:45 Thank you, Mrs. Capin.
11:15:46 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
11:15:48 That looks good.
11:15:49 I especially like the landscaping on Westshore.
11:15:55 I was flipping through, actually, I think it's the draft of
11:15:58 the city.
11:16:02 You might be able to answer it.
11:16:05 Ms. Coyle can probably answer it.
11:16:10 There's in red table 4-2 number 5 about sidewalks and it
11:16:29 says shall bend away from the street which isn't consistent
11:16:33 with what you showed us as far as having grass and tree
11:16:37 >> Well, what we are doing on Westshore Boulevard is an
11:16:40 example, and we can go back to the PowerPoint for a moment.
11:16:51 Westshore Boulevard, we are talking about sidewalks
11:16:57 commencing at the back.
11:17:00 They actually do.
11:17:01 And this is the plan.
11:17:02 You can see the area behind the tree wells themselves.
11:17:07 Other areas of concrete come up to the back of the curb
11:17:10 And so we are creating that hybrid where we are using trees
11:17:13 and buffers.
11:17:15 We are using that area to be able to provide street
11:17:17 furniture which would be benches, trash receptacles, things
11:17:22 of that nature, and allows for a fair amount of the area
11:17:25 that a typical bus stop would use.
11:17:27 When we go to other areas of the street, we have the
11:17:30 opportunity between the back of the cushioned the sidewalk.
11:17:35 And that is a safety feature, full, for pedestrians.
11:17:39 I was involved in that master plan, Trent Green at the
11:17:43 University of South Florida were the authors.
11:17:45 Since I was the chair of the master plan committee I worked
11:17:48 very closely with him.
11:17:49 He was concerned and stated that in the fashion so to get
11:17:54 the maximum sidewalk where possible.
11:17:56 We found when we went through a right-of-way review that in
11:17:59 fact many areas we could provide a sidewalk of what the
11:18:03 desired depth was, without being right at the back of the
11:18:06 curb so we provided that exhibit and say the grass area
11:18:09 Many streets, wouldn't be any at all.
11:18:13 Some streets, we may found out in actual design that it's
11:18:16 better off to make the sidewalk a little larger, full, to
11:18:21 get rid of that space.
11:18:24 The overlay is moving more into practicality and reality of
11:18:27 what we can actually do.
11:18:29 He did not have the benefit of all the right-of-way with the
11:18:32 streets and making the master plan provisions, the master
11:18:37 plan concept.
11:18:37 >>MARY MULHERN: I think this is probably one of the most
11:18:41 important things, especially on Westshore.
11:18:45 You know, not necessarily on the less busy streets, but I
11:18:52 think I would like to see the grass, small grass area, where
11:19:01 there aren't trees cut out on the streets to be required.
11:19:08 I mean, that's the scariest thing when you are walking down.
11:19:12 You are a pedestrian and you are walking and you are forced
11:19:15 to be right next to, you know, really fast traffic.
11:19:21 You know, I'm sure that maybe that we can't do it
11:19:26 But as opposed to the norm being sidewalk going to the curb,
11:19:33 I think the norm should be that there is a buffer of grass
11:19:39 or trees.
11:19:40 >> Well in, Westshore Boulevard, what we have really is the
11:19:45 14-foot 10-inch sidewalk, the buffer area, which is what you
11:19:48 are concerned about, and so am I, where we have the street
11:19:53 trees, is almost 5 feet wide and we have some areas where we
11:19:57 have finished sidewalk up to the curb.
11:19:59 Really in between the trees.
11:20:00 So there are about 20-foot sections of concrete to allow the
11:20:06 benches, trash receptacle, newspaper racks, whatever, so
11:20:11 they are out of the walkable area, and where the folks are
11:20:13 walking on the illustration is meant to be a clean wide-open
11:20:17 9-foot wide sidewalk.
11:20:19 So that's really where the pedestrian path is, so we are
11:20:22 creating that buffer, and lowering the maintenance
11:20:24 requirement at the same time.
11:20:26 If you walk downtown, you know, you have a lot of 9 and
11:20:30 10-foot sidewalks downtown.
11:20:31 Unfortunately when you have trees, grates, benches,
11:20:36 furniture, you wind up with a walkable sidewalk that's 5 or
11:20:40 6 feet so we really pay attention to the walkable sidewalk
11:20:43 and keeping that as far away from the motorist on the street
11:20:46 as we can.
11:20:47 By the way on Westshore a complete street sweep, when they
11:20:52 bring that to you one of the things they are proposing is a
11:20:54 bicycle lane on Westshore Boulevard, which gives us another
11:20:57 4-foot separation of the car from the curb, from the
11:21:02 sidewalk and then from the bed so we wind up with about an 8
11:21:05 or 9-foot section from a travel lane on the street, and the
11:21:08 actual walkable sidewalk area.
11:21:10 So we are very in tune and we are very concerned about that.
11:21:15 The worst thing we could do is put in sidewalks in Westshore
11:21:18 and have them become dangerous because we have people and
11:21:21 cars too close.
11:21:22 >>MARY MULHERN: I totally agree with you but I don't
11:21:24 understand why this language is in there then, because
11:21:27 people are going to look at the development standards, and
11:21:29 it's going to say the sidewalk commences at the curb.
11:21:34 >> That's not the development standards.
11:21:38 That's the public realm master plan produced by USF.
11:21:41 The overlay standards are what we are talking, where we have
11:21:45 taken those concepts and put them into reality, which is
11:21:47 what the overlay revisions are doing.
11:21:49 >>MARY MULHERN: Okay.
11:21:50 I'm looking at Westshore overlay district development
11:21:57 I'm looking at the city's.
11:21:59 What we are being given.
11:22:00 >> Randy Coen: We can certainly change that language.
11:22:06 I was assuming you were looking at the document.
11:22:09 >> It's not reflecting your recommendations.
11:22:12 >>CATHERINE COYLE: And again, the Planning Commission, I
11:22:23 was going to ask when you make that motion to transmit that
11:22:26 we make any revisions based on comments of staff and City
11:22:28 Council prior to transmitting.
11:22:31 What we can do, that's a general statement.
11:22:36 We can add in a provision that says with the exception of
11:22:40 landscape per the plan, per the requirements, we can come up
11:22:44 with language specifically.
11:22:46 But we do want to direct them that at least the sidewalk
11:22:49 starts at the curb.
11:22:53 Where you create the interchange.
11:22:54 >>MARY MULHERN: But I don't think we want the sidewalk to
11:23:02 start at the curb.
11:23:05 We either do or we don't.
11:23:06 >> Well, we'll put language in here that it will commence at
11:23:10 the curb in those areas where there is not sufficient room
11:23:13 for sidewalks, where there are areas, where there is
11:23:16 additional room, we will start from the right-of-way line
11:23:18 and work our way back, if you will, and that will provide
11:23:21 that area.
11:23:23 >>MARY MULHERN: I think you might need to somehow define
11:23:26 how you determine if there's room or not.
11:23:38 >>CATHERINE COYLE: D.O.T. has their own manuals for all this
11:23:43 These are like enhanced design requirements above and beyond
11:23:44 what the state transportation manual is.
11:23:46 The basic transportation standards from the state that we
11:23:48 actually enforce, that's where the standard comes from,
11:23:53 5-foot sidewalks, with a 1-foot strip next to the curb, or a
11:23:58 6-foot sidewalk because that one foot is not really
11:24:02 It's recovery area for a car.
11:24:04 >>MARY MULHERN: Where is the one foot?
11:24:08 In the street?
11:24:09 >> It's right on the sidewalk area.
11:24:12 >> That's not a city standard.
11:24:14 That is a basic Strander from the state.
11:24:16 >>MARY MULHERN: Right.
11:24:18 But we are creating new standards.
11:24:19 >> No, you are not.
11:24:21 You are creating standards for design purposes.
11:24:22 But in no way can we overlay, or take away from what the
11:24:27 standard at the state level is.
11:24:28 We still have to enforce that.
11:24:30 >> From a safety standpoint that's when we talk about
11:24:37 neighborhood streets would be 5 to 6 feet.
11:24:39 The D.O.T. standard which is adopted by the city as well as
11:24:42 safety standpoint is 5-foot sidewalk is permissible as long
11:24:45 as you have a minimum of a one-foot green space between the
11:24:50 cushioned the sidewalk and those areas where you do not have
11:24:53 that, you must have at least a 6-foot sidewalk.
11:24:56 That is a standard.
11:24:58 We are not invalidating that standard by the overlay.
11:25:01 We are trying to enhance it.
11:25:04 >>MARY MULHERN: And this wording doesn't do that.
11:25:07 So if we can change that.
11:25:10 >> We will take care of that.
11:25:11 >>MARY MULHERN: And then my question is -- I don't see on
11:25:14 the agenda that we are being asked to transmit this.
11:25:16 We are not being asked today to transmit this, are we?
11:25:20 This morning?
11:25:20 >> We come forward and bring forward the language that's
11:25:25 privately initiated and then we ask you to transmit it.
11:25:28 >> It doesn't say that on the agenda, though.
11:25:33 This is the first time we really looked at it.
11:25:37 It's a workshop.
11:25:44 I mean, I caught that just now.
11:25:46 I would like to read through this.
11:25:47 >> I'll explain the process again.
11:25:51 This comes up pretty much --
11:25:52 >>MARY MULHERN: No, I understand the process.
11:25:54 I understand the process.
11:25:55 I'm just saying it didn't say transmittal.
11:26:00 And normally, I think normally we do these at our night
11:26:09 >>CATHERINE COYLE: No, you don't.
11:26:10 You do it during the day.
11:26:11 >>MARY MULHERN: This is not --
11:26:13 >> This is not a hearing to adopt it or anything.
11:26:16 You will have two public hearings on it at a later date.
11:26:18 >>MARY MULHERN: Listen, I know about transmitting things to
11:26:22 the Planning Commission.
11:26:23 And I like to transmit something that when I know what it
11:26:27 And this is pretty big and we didn't even -- just get a copy
11:26:33 of this.
11:26:34 >>REBECCA KERT: Legal department.
11:26:35 This is a little bit different than a city-initiated
11:26:42 Because it's privately initiated they have the right to have
11:26:46 it considered by the commission.
11:26:49 I don't know what the timing issue is.
11:26:52 If they are able to request some additional time.
11:26:55 But it's ministerial and it's going to go to the Planning
11:26:59 Commission and then come back to you.
11:27:01 But this is not city initiated.
11:27:03 It's privately initiated.
11:27:04 >>MARY MULHERN: Mr. Cohen, and Ms. Coyle, I guess, a
11:27:15 question for you.
11:27:16 Can we change that language before we transmit this?
11:27:22 >>CATHERINE COYLE: That's what I was saying.
11:27:23 In your motion to transmit make part of the motion to tweak
11:27:27 whatever language we need to tweak.
11:27:29 And that's happened in the past, too, privately initiated
11:27:33 >>MARY MULHERN: So before we close this hearing, Mr. Cohen,
11:27:35 can you give us the wording that you are recommending we
11:27:42 >> We can try.
11:27:43 However, wail say is staff has given some additional
11:27:46 comments the day before yesterday so we will be
11:27:48 incorporating those into the section as well.
11:27:50 I would rather do it all at the same time to make sure that
11:27:53 I have consistency.
11:27:54 Normally --
11:27:58 >>MARY MULHERN: Wait.
11:27:59 You have recommendations?
11:28:00 Have we seen those recommendations from staff?
11:28:06 >>CATHERINE COYLE: The majority of the recommendations from
11:28:07 staff are literally just some clean-up items on how things
11:28:11 are referenced.
11:28:11 Normally we handle that in the public hearing process prior
11:28:15 You will get a file version -- final version when it comes
11:28:18 back to you.
11:28:18 >>MARY MULHERN: So you will be -- your thought was the
11:28:24 staff recommendations were to do those when it comes back to
11:28:26 us after it goes to the Planning Commission?
11:28:29 >> Randy Coen: We'll do it before Planning Commission or
11:28:32 after Planning Commission.
11:28:35 >>CATHERINE COYLE: The Planning Commission processwise, but
11:28:37 the majority of changes that are coming from staff are not
11:28:39 really changes.
11:28:40 They are corrections and updates.
11:28:41 >> Well, whatever we are talking about right now.
11:28:47 >> I would like this as part of your motion.
11:28:50 >> That we go ahead and make those changes before we
11:28:53 transmit to the Planning Commission.
11:28:56 >>CATHERINE COYLE: The only place you are reading that, Mrs.
11:28:58 Mulhern, I believe was for Westshore.
11:29:00 The rest of the tables don't actually have that.
11:29:02 So the only place that's mentioned is that particular
11:29:05 And if you like I can come up with a correct reference for
11:29:11 that, if you would like.
11:29:12 >> And on Westshore we are commencing the sidewalk at the
11:29:16 back of the curb because of the planning and tree walls that
11:29:19 we are putting in, we are effectively moving the sidewalks
11:29:22 out but the back of the curb on Westshore itself.
11:29:27 >>MARY MULHERN: So the buffer, trees and grass, is that
11:29:36 going to be continuous?
11:29:42 >> Yes.
11:29:43 If we can go to the overhead for a moment.
11:29:45 This is the graphic we have for Westshore Boulevard itself.
11:29:49 These are the tree wells and the trees.
11:29:51 These are actually four foot, four and a half feet by 10.5
11:29:55 feet, three wells.
11:29:57 This is the 14-foot sidewalk from the curb all the way to
11:30:00 the right-of-way line.
11:30:03 It's followed by two rows of brick which are identical.
11:30:07 Different colors but identical.
11:30:08 This is a map of what we do on Kennedy Boulevard where we
11:30:11 have curbs.
11:30:12 We have brick.
11:30:12 We have sidewalks.
11:30:13 >>MARY MULHERN: So the brick is in the street?
11:30:16 >> No, the brick is on the backside of the curb.
11:30:19 >>MARY MULHERN: On the sidewalk part of the curb?
11:30:22 >> And what we have done is come in with our tree wells
11:30:25 planting areas, created a 9-foot walkable sidewalk, created
11:30:29 these indents to be used for other things that one would
11:30:32 physically find on a sidewalk, newspaper racks, trash
11:30:36 receptacles, perhaps some weigh finding signs, things of
11:30:41 that nature.
11:30:42 Effectively we have moved the pedestrians away from the
11:30:44 street on Kennedy Boulevard.
11:30:45 You have the same exact situation but much smaller tree
11:30:49 And a much narrower sidewalk.
11:30:51 So we are trying to mimic Kennedy Boulevard but trying to
11:30:54 provide it in a much more safe fashion.
11:30:56 >> What's the distance, the length between the tree wells
11:31:02 >> Basically, that is about 25 feet, I believe.
11:31:07 If we go to the other side slide, I can tell you exactly
11:31:11 what that distance is.
11:31:15 Let's see, we have 18 and a half, 19 feet between the tree
11:31:21 wells themselves, so we have about a 19-foot area there
11:31:24 which is relatively short in length, very chopped up because
11:31:27 we have trees every 30 feet.
11:31:29 So not enough room to put furniture, et cetera, in.
11:31:35 Our sidewalk, is from the back of the tree well, and
11:31:37 commencing sidewalks, because we have no green space,
11:31:40 because of wanting that clean urban look at we have downtown
11:31:44 and along Kennedy Boulevard.
11:31:46 >> So does that mean that the entire length of Westshore
11:31:55 Boulevard for new development will have to be -- will have
11:32:01 to have -- they'll have to have trees based at that distance
11:32:08 on that sidewalk?
11:32:09 >> Yes.
11:32:10 >> Okay.
11:32:10 What about where you showed the grass areas?
11:32:15 Is it the same distance?
11:32:35 Those are on the other streets and they do not have that
11:32:37 note about sidewalks where it's possible.
11:32:40 >> Okay.
11:32:41 So how do you determine whether it's possible or not?
11:32:47 >> Very simple.
11:32:48 With the right-of-way location of the curb requirement to
11:32:51 the sidewalk, what we have done is basically has to be a
11:32:55 minimum of a 6-foot sidewalk.
11:32:57 Many roadways have wider sidewalks.
11:32:59 Safety standards from the D.O.T. and the gren book design
11:33:02 manual, which is what the City of Tampa utilizes as well, is
11:33:06 that a sidewalk either has a separation of a foot or more,
11:33:09 and it can be 5-foot in width or has to be a minimum of 6
11:33:13 We are not violating that standard.
11:33:15 We are actually embracing it and trying to get an actual
11:33:17 wider sidewalk.
11:33:18 Where there are areas where our right-of-way is such that
11:33:21 the sidewalk can be placed back in the back of the
11:33:23 right-of-way which is the current city practice anyway, we
11:33:26 are simply reinforcing that in this overlay.
11:33:30 >> Okay.
11:33:31 Hopefully, that's current city practice, like there's miles
11:33:35 and miles of roadways where we don't have that --
11:33:38 >> Historically?
11:33:40 Most definitely.
11:33:41 But I can tell you today that is the practice.
11:33:43 That is the requirement, as a matter of fact, in the olden
11:33:46 days going back many years.
11:33:47 A lot of folks simply didn't build sidewalks and it was no
11:33:50 big deal.
11:33:51 I can assure you your transportation division, when you
11:33:53 redevelop something, you are putting in a sidewalk that you
11:33:56 must have a paramount reason why a sidewalk cannot be
11:33:59 constructed there and then you are still paying for the cost
11:34:02 of that sidewalk so the city can utilize that to make there
11:34:05 are other sidewalks in place.
11:34:06 >>MARY MULHERN: Okay.
11:34:08 One more question about this.
11:34:09 I know I'm taking up a lot of time.
11:34:11 But I think this is really important.
11:34:15 Why can't we just take that sentence out of this?
11:34:22 If it's not in the other streets, rather than making it --
11:34:26 >> We simply eliminate it.
11:34:28 We'll eliminate that portion of it anyway.
11:34:30 >>MARY MULHERN: That's what I would like.
11:34:31 So I'll make that in the form of a motion.
11:34:34 >> Okay.
11:34:35 >>MARY MULHERN: To remove under table 4.2, number 5, the
11:34:40 sentence that says the sidewalk shall commend at the back of
11:34:45 curbs and extend away from the street, especially based on
11:34:48 the fact that the state standards say that anyway.
11:34:52 So I don't think it's necessary to be in this overlay or
11:35:00 development standard section.
11:35:01 >> It will be done.
11:35:03 >>MARY MULHERN: Thank you.
11:35:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Mrs. Montelione.
11:35:09 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Thank you, sir.
11:35:11 And I agree with Ms. Mulhern.
11:35:14 We want to be able to protect pedestrians from the
11:35:19 fast-moving cars.
11:35:20 And I know there's a lot here.
11:35:23 And I also agree that the language in our code needs to
11:35:30 reflect some of the proposals that you are making in the
11:35:34 master plan, because if they are not in the code, it doesn't
11:35:39 matter it's in the master plan so we need to make sure this
11:35:43 is accurately reflected in any of the changes, whether it's
11:35:46 in the overlay district or whether it appears somewhere else
11:35:49 in the codes that affect development in Westshore.
11:35:53 But one of the things I want to say it's not part of the
11:35:57 code revision but it's on my mind since it was discussed
11:36:00 earlier during the presentation that Mr. Snelling made about
11:36:04 our sustain ability issues, and I see a lot in the plan that
11:36:12 calls for a lot of that.
11:36:14 And there's a lot of maintenance and a lot of mowing and he
11:36:20 talked earlier -- Angelo Rowe, quite some time ago, a year
11:36:25 or two ago when he gave clean streets presentation for the
11:36:31 MPO showed some instances in urban areas where swales were
11:36:35 put in.
11:36:36 They looked great.
11:36:37 They cleaned the stormwater.
11:36:40 We don't have a lot of runoff going into our stormwater
11:36:43 system for us to deal with and reduces the chemicals that we
11:36:47 need to clean the water afterwards.
11:36:48 So wherever we can encourage, rather than just the grassy
11:36:53 area, you know, between the street and the sidewalks,
11:36:56 install the swales would be hugely helpful to sustainability
11:37:04 efforts and improve our green environment.
11:37:08 The other things, she hit upon most of what I was going to
11:37:14 Are and the other hot topic is, of course, pedestrian
11:37:21 And crossing these very wide streets.
11:37:23 And I was looking to see what the distance was through some
11:37:28 of the crossings.
11:37:29 And I know it's quite a great distance.
11:37:32 And if there is a requirement in transportation for
11:37:37 installation of the pedestrian traffic is signals, those are
11:37:44 the ones that say how many minutes -- how many seconds, not
11:37:49 minutes -- how many seconds you have to cross the street be
11:37:52 installed in the median, not just on either side of the
11:37:56 roadway, because you can't -- you know, I'm already wearing
11:38:03 You can't possibly see from one side of the street to the
11:38:06 other in some of these distances.
11:38:08 So if we could look at the transportation requirement to
11:38:13 include pedestrian signals placed in the medians to assist
11:38:19 folks crossing those very wide streets.
11:38:21 >> We can certainly look at that.
11:38:26 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Those are the only two things.
11:38:29 She touched upon -- or you touched upon, I think, the walk
11:38:33 plan that the city is finishing up and I'm sure one of those
11:38:36 recommendations is going to be not only bicycle lanes but
11:38:38 protected bicycle lanes.
11:38:39 >> Yes.
11:38:42 Where we can, yes.
11:38:43 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Because it's hugely important to the
11:38:46 And also help the pedestrians as well, if you have that
11:38:50 protected bicycle lane, you have another barrier between the
11:38:58 That's it for me.
11:38:59 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
11:39:00 Anything else?
11:39:03 Mrs. Mulhern, your motion?
11:39:05 >>MARY MULHERN: I would like to make a motion that we
11:39:09 strike that one sentence from -- I lost it.
11:39:16 Here it is.
11:39:19 Table 4-2 number 5, and the sentence to be struck is the
11:39:24 second sentence, the sidewalk shall -- crossed it out so I
11:39:31 can't find it -- sidewalk can commence at the back of
11:39:34 cushioned extend away from the street.
11:39:36 And then I would like to add to that, Councilwoman
11:39:39 Montelione's suggestion that you also add the recommendation
11:39:46 that pedestrian signals should be placed in the median where
11:39:52 Can we do that?
11:39:55 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Yes.
11:39:55 It's not really part of the overlay issue.
11:39:57 Those a public works infrastructure issue.
11:40:01 The reality is for some reason, a study shows that they had
11:40:04 to do it for a development.
11:40:08 We could discuss that but it's not normal for that to happen
11:40:12 as part of the project.
11:40:14 >>MARY MULHERN: You can't make it --
11:40:16 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Installing the pedestrian signals in a
11:40:18 median in the middle of the street?
11:40:21 That's usually what you would do as part of the development
11:40:24 and --
11:40:26 >>MARY MULHERN: All right, I'll take that out but for
11:40:29 information where could we start to address that?
11:40:33 >>CATHERINE COYLE: With transportation.
11:40:33 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I'll second your motion but I have
11:40:38 follow-up questions on that same issue.
11:40:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a motion by Mrs. Mulhern, seconded
11:40:42 by Mrs. Montelione.
11:40:43 All in favor of the motion?
11:40:46 Tampa ayes have it unanimously.
11:40:48 Now you know why America is overweight.
11:40:51 They don't like to walk.
11:40:53 Including me.
11:40:55 Mrs. Montelione.
11:40:56 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I do want to come back and address that
11:40:59 pedestrian signal.
11:41:00 Because --
11:41:03 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Rebecca asked me does the motion include
11:41:06 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: No.
11:41:06 That was just a motion -- I haven't gone to the public.
11:41:10 I only had one speaker.
11:41:12 I don't know if there's others.
11:41:13 >>LISA MONTELIONE: When you mention the development
11:41:16 standards for development, new development or whether we are
11:41:22 redeveloping, address only improvements adjacent to the
11:41:29 We require sometimes traffic signals.
11:41:34 We require turning lanes.
11:41:35 Sometimes they are left turning lanes.
11:41:39 Sometimes right turning lanes.
11:41:40 A turning lane if you are on one side of the street,
11:41:45 adjacent immediately to the property, a pedestrian signal
11:41:55 isn't going to be just a left lane turn.
11:42:00 >>CATHERINE COYLE: The requirements to add traffic signals
11:42:03 where they are warranted are all derived from a traffic
11:42:06 study so it's actually done as part of a development.
11:42:09 They are not a basic development standard that you have to
11:42:11 put one in when you are adjacent to one.
11:42:15 >>LISA MONTELIONE: That's where we run into problems
11:42:16 because if we don't start addressing those standards and
11:42:21 requiring those kinds of safety infrastructure elements to
11:42:25 be put in, then we are going to continue to have the same
11:42:30 problems we are having now.
11:42:31 >> My point is regulation of that is not in the overlay
11:42:36 This is simply a design overlay for how property develops.
11:42:39 What you are really talking about is how the city directs
11:42:44 its money to spend on certain things.
11:42:46 Because even if they have to put in lanes --
11:42:49 >> What would prevent us, Mrs. Coyle, from putting in an
11:42:52 Is there any restriction, regulation, any --
11:43:01 >> Which development, the one that's on the corner?
11:43:03 >> Well, which developer pays for undergrounding TECO
11:43:10 utility lines, which we usually waive anyway.
11:43:14 Kennedy Boulevard is part of that standard.
11:43:16 I mean, the entire section of roadway when you underground
11:43:21 utility lines.
11:43:23 >>CATHERINE COYLE: You are talking about putting in a
11:43:25 pedestrian signal for the general public within the public
11:43:27 right-of-way --
11:43:31 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Right turn lanes also?
11:43:33 >> Yes, about that you left turn lane is being put in for
11:43:36 the traffic from that development, the particular
11:43:40 >>LISA MONTELIONE: And the pedestrian signal would be to
11:43:42 handle the pedestrians crossing the street that are
11:43:46 generated by that development.
11:43:47 If we put in like a 200 unit or 2,000 unit apartment
11:43:52 complex, or be 50,000 square foot commercial building, there
11:43:59 are going to be people who are working object living there
11:44:02 who want to cross the street, not just cars who are parked
11:44:05 in the parking lot for people driving to that location.
11:44:11 >> I don't disagree with that. I guess the difference is
11:44:13 those things, the left turn lane, those are things that are
11:44:17 They are warranted after a study, and the study determines
11:44:20 what is warranted.
11:44:22 Everyone has to put in a left turn signal.
11:44:28 When the development is causing the need for them, but there
11:44:31 has to be that demonstrated, and that's the difference.
11:44:33 I don't think anyone is saying the idea is not well taken.
11:44:37 It's just not well taken to place unilaterally in an
11:44:41 It's something you need to talk to transportation about.
11:44:44 >>LISA MONTELIONE: So maybe somebody needs to explain to me
11:44:46 and to everybody else why the capacity only applies to cars.
11:44:50 Because people occupy that building or they occupy that new
11:44:56 residential structure, and those people are getting to and
11:45:00 from that office complex or that residential complex by
11:45:07 That's capacity.
11:45:08 >>REBECCA KERT: I'm not in a position to argue that point
11:45:16 and I am not trying to argue that point.
11:45:17 This is a privately initiated overlay.
11:45:20 And even if it wasn't a privately initiated overlay, that is
11:45:24 still something that you do -- if you are not happy with
11:45:30 shall the way studies are being conducted, then that's a
11:45:33 fair discussion to have.
11:45:34 It's not this discussion.
11:45:35 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Okay.
11:45:37 So outside of this discussion, I guess we should initiate a
11:45:42 workshop, because staff reports don't seem to provide us
11:45:46 enough time to delve into an issue as I learned last week.
11:45:52 So I would make a motion that we schedule a workshop.
11:45:55 And let me look at the calendar.
11:45:57 Oh, do we want to do that outside of this after we pass
11:46:03 So let's get to that and then I'll look at the dates.
11:46:06 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you.
11:46:06 Anyone else in the public care to speak on this item, item
11:46:09 number 6?
11:46:12 That has not spoken?
11:46:13 Oh, my gosh.
11:46:15 You have spoken.
11:46:19 >>MARGARET VIZZI: Not on this issue.
11:46:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I know, I know, I know.
11:46:22 >>MARGARET VIZZI: 213 South Sherrill.
11:46:25 The Westshore neighborhood improvement committee.
11:46:27 I chair that committee and have for many, many years.
11:46:31 Westshore Alliance has come to us for, I would say, two
11:46:36 years ago, to tell us they were doing this, and to get input
11:46:41 from us, which they did.
11:46:44 And the one thing that just came up finally was bike lane,
11:46:48 because the study is being proposed.
11:46:57 As far as the issue coming out of the airport -- and I know
11:46:59 it has nothing to do with this, but I complained about that,
11:47:05 the citizens committee for the airport.
11:47:07 They didn't even have State Road 60 on those signs.
11:47:11 They finally put 60 but said they cannot put Kennedy.
11:47:16 And don't ask me why.
11:47:17 They named Spruce.
11:47:18 They named cypress.
11:47:19 But they can't put Kennedy Boulevard.
11:47:22 I don't understand it either.
11:47:23 But it's so important that they do that.
11:47:26 But that's just an aside.
11:47:28 Basically, we wanted to let you know that they have come to
11:47:34 Some of your comments I can agree with.
11:47:36 So that was my main purpose in being here.
11:47:40 The neighbors, residents who live around there have known
11:47:43 this is going on.
11:47:45 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you.
11:47:45 Anyone else in the audience care to speak on item number 6?
11:47:50 Motion from council.
11:47:51 Mrs. Capin.
11:47:53 >>YVONNE CAPIN: I agree with the motion.
11:47:55 My only side is that twice it was commented that the bicycle
11:47:59 lane would be a buffer for the pedestrians.
11:48:01 And I would hate to be a bicycle to be the buffer for
11:48:05 With a car.
11:48:06 Anyway --
11:48:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: You move item number 6 for transmittal
11:48:13 based on where the changes before the Planning Commission
11:48:16 that were adopted that Ms. Mulhern made.
11:48:20 I have a motion by Mrs. Capin to transmit for the changes
11:48:24 that were made, seconded by Mr. Reddick.
11:48:27 All in favor of the motion please indicate by saying aye.
11:48:29 Opposed nay.
11:48:30 Motion passes unanimously.
11:48:32 Thank you all very much.
11:48:33 I appreciate it very much.
11:48:45 >>CATHERINE COYLE: Could I do a wrap up?
11:48:47 The City Council made amendment, nine or eleven of them that
11:48:50 you made for me to put in the January cycle and I would like
11:48:53 to request that we schedule the workshop for those in May.
11:48:55 >>LISA MONTELIONE: He would don't have any topics for
11:49:01 discussion yet on the May 22nd workshop date.
11:49:04 >> Yes.
11:49:08 >>LISA MONTELIONE: So I will motion that the city initiated
11:49:12 amendment to the comprehensive plan come to us in the
11:49:14 workshop session on May 22nd.
11:49:16 >> If you could clarify City Council initiated.
11:49:21 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a motion by Mrs. Montelione, a
11:49:23 second by Mrs. Capin.
11:49:26 All in favor of that motion?
11:49:28 The ayes pass unanimously.
11:49:31 Mrs. Montelione.
11:49:32 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I had it also brought to my attention by
11:49:37 Mr. Shelby that on the 24th we have a workshop scheduled
11:49:43 for discussion of transportation impacts relating to
11:49:47 rezoning and the development permit process.
11:49:50 So if we could add the issue that was brought up today about
11:49:56 addressing capacity standards as related to traffic studies
11:50:01 being conducted for development, new development or
11:50:05 redevelopment of property to that 24th workshop.
11:50:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Motion by Mrs. Montelione, seconded by
11:50:14 Mrs. Capin.
11:50:15 Discussion by council members.
11:50:16 Mrs. Capin.
11:50:18 >>YVONNE CAPIN: The date on that again --
11:50:20 >>LISA MONTELIONE: The 24th of April.
11:50:23 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Of April.
11:50:25 And I second it wholeheartedly because we are talking about
11:50:28 widening sidewalks 10-foot.
11:50:29 That's going to increase people, hopefully increase people
11:50:33 Therefore, the study of how many people are walking on the
11:50:37 street is absolutely on target.
11:50:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Mrs. Mulhern.
11:50:41 >>MARY MULHERN: I'll support the motion.
11:50:45 And I wanted to suggest that also, I don't know how this
11:50:53 would work, but there's a street streets analysis going on
11:51:02 of Westshore Boulevard that that would be a recommendation
11:51:09 that you might want to see included in there.
11:51:11 So I don't know who is doing that analysis.
11:51:14 >>LISA MONTELIONE: That would be Jean Duncan, and probably
11:51:20 Calvin Thornton from transportation doing the complete
11:51:23 street study.
11:51:24 >>MARY MULHERN: So they would be here for the workshop
11:51:28 >>LISA MONTELIONE: We might want to say that specifically.
11:51:32 That they do appear.
11:51:34 >>CATHERINE COYLE: It's actually myself and Melanie
11:51:43 They are part of development.
11:51:45 >>LISA MONTELIONE: I would ask Mrs. Duncan to be here as
11:51:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have that added to the motion made by
11:51:50 Mrs. Montelione, seconded by Mrs. Capin with the addition.
11:51:54 All in favor of the motion?
11:51:56 The ayes have it unanimously.
11:51:58 Anything else?
11:51:59 We go to receive and file.
11:52:02 >>FRANK REDDICK: So moved.
11:52:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Motion by Mr. Reddick to receive and
11:52:05 file, seconded by --
11:52:08 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Second.
11:52:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: -- Mrs. Montelione.
11:52:11 All in favor?
11:52:12 The ayes have it unanimously.
11:52:15 Information reports.
11:52:16 We go from left to right.
11:52:17 Mrs. Montelione.
11:52:18 >>LISA MONTELIONE: None, sir.
11:52:20 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you.
11:52:20 Mr. Cohen, anything?
11:52:21 Thank you, Mr. Cohen.
11:52:23 Mrs. Mulhern.
11:52:24 >>MARY MULHERN: No new business.
11:52:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you Mr. Reddick.
11:52:27 >>FRANK REDDICK: Yes, sir.
11:52:29 A couple, Mr. Chair.
11:52:31 one, I want to make a motion to have Tampa staff report on
11:52:41 February 6th, 2014, April 17th specifically to
11:52:49 related to alcohol establishments, like to move that to the
11:52:51 April 24th workshop agenda.
11:52:53 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Second.
11:52:55 >>MARTIN SHELBY: Clarification.
11:52:58 Just so when the motion and the clerk amend the motion, your
11:53:03 request for the report that you are asking for on the
11:53:06 24th relates to special use processes, only with regard
11:53:09 to alcoholic beverages?
11:53:13 >>FRANK REDDICK: Right.
11:53:14 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a motion by Mr. Reddick.
11:53:16 I'm sorry, I missed the second.
11:53:19 Mrs. Capin.
11:53:22 Discussion by council members?
11:53:23 >>LISA MONTELIONE: Well, in conjunction with that -- and
11:53:34 I'm looking at the bullet points that are on the agenda for
11:53:37 the 17th, there was a related one.
11:53:42 They appear kind of out of order, I think, on the 17th
11:53:49 agenda, but the one that Councilman Reddick just moved, I'll
11:53:54 refer to it as the last bullet point on that page.
11:53:57 The one immediately before that, that says to provide a
11:54:00 report regarding the following impacts will be the cost of
11:54:02 the applicant before and after the change to the process,
11:54:06 change the time frame, and there are four items here, A, B,
11:54:11 C and D.
11:54:12 Those also relate to that discussion of the SU-2 process.
11:54:16 So we need to move that bullet point from the 17th to
11:54:20 the 24th.
11:54:24 Does that make sense?
11:54:26 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Is that a motion?
11:54:28 >>LISA MONTELIONE: That's a motion, yes.
11:54:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Motion by Mrs. Montelione, second by Mrs.
11:54:32 Further discussion by council members?
11:54:34 All in favor?
11:54:36 The ayes have it unanimously.
11:54:38 Mrs. Capin.
11:54:39 >>FRANK REDDICK: We.
11:54:42 Voted on my motion.
11:54:44 >>LISA MONTELIONE: That's an amendment to my motion.
11:54:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Motion by Mr. Reddick.
11:54:48 Seconded by Mrs. Capin.
11:54:50 All in favor?
11:54:51 The ayes have it unanimously.
11:54:52 Anything else?
11:54:55 Mrs. Capin?
11:54:57 Mr. Reddick?
11:54:59 Mr. Cohen?
11:55:00 Mr. Suarez?
11:55:02 >>FRANK REDDICK: I want to make a motion to request the
11:55:04 legal department appear before council under staff reports
11:55:08 to give us an update on the Jackson house, the status of the
11:55:13 demolition and the status of the fines that have been
11:55:15 accumulated, and what's the city's position pertaining to
11:55:19 the Jackson house.
11:55:20 >> I second that.
11:55:22 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Motion by Mr. Reddick, seconded by Mrs.
11:55:25 Capin on a close vote with Mrs. In Montelione.
11:55:29 All in favor?
11:55:32 >>YVONNE CAPIN: You know, it came up, the Jackson house,
11:55:36 Lena Green Young brought it up as a condemned house in the
11:55:39 Heights but they brought that house back, and she
11:55:42 specifically stood before us and said, please, it takes
11:55:46 And that's one of the things.
11:55:49 And also it would make a beautiful bed and breakfast.
11:55:53 >>LISA MONTELIONE: That it would.
11:55:55 >>FRANK REDDICK: Under staff reports.
11:55:58 That's what I am requesting.
11:56:00 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Motion by Mr. Reddick.
11:56:01 Second by Mrs. Capin on a close vote with Mrs. Montelione.
11:56:05 All in favor?
11:56:06 Of opposed?
11:56:07 The ayes have it unanimously.
11:56:08 >>FRANK REDDICK: Last, chair, I would make a motion to
11:56:11 present a commendation to Mrs. Pittman Lewis.
11:56:15 They are having a celebration in her honor as the co-founder
11:56:18 of the Harmony Wind Gospel Group in the State of Florida.
11:56:22 And that's to be presented to her on Sunday.
11:56:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I have a motion by Mr. Reddick, seconded
11:56:27 by Mrs. Montelione.
11:56:28 All in favor of the motion?
11:56:31 The ayes have it unanimously.
11:56:34 Mrs. Capin?
11:56:35 >>YVONNE CAPIN: Just a couple of things here.
11:56:38 One of the things I noticed driving on Wednesday and then
11:56:42 today, all the young people that are walking on streets and
11:56:47 with bags and visiting, and it's all because of the Florida
11:56:50 State Thespian festival.
11:57:02 They are staying at our hotels and spending money in our
11:57:06 core and getting to know our downtown core.
11:57:09 The other thing I want to talk about real quickly.
11:57:11 I got this copy of the Wall Street Journal dated March 22,
11:57:16 Sunday's Wall Street Journal, and this came from
11:57:19 Hillsborough County school board member Candy Olsen and the
11:57:23 note says, "Yolie, we are famous!"
11:57:26 And it's the Cuban sandwich.
11:57:31 And in there it's quoted Richard Gonzmart.
11:57:33 I want to tell you all, you know, City Council, one of the
11:57:36 things also the mayor said that was a quote that he said at
11:57:39 the State of the City, and it was like -- I am going to
11:57:53 paraphrase -- good luck is accompanied by boldness, and this
11:58:01 is what we have here.
11:58:02 We were very bold.
11:58:04 And I said Richard Gonzmart, and let's see, who else?
11:58:09 Andy Hughs from USF is quoted in the Wall Street Journal.
11:58:13 And the quote here says, While Florida old-timers debate the
11:58:17 origins of the Cuban, shops around the country are taking
11:58:22 the recipe and running with it.
11:58:24 Great coverage there.
11:58:40 The only other thing I have is that this weekend -- I'm
11:58:45 sorry, April 6th from 8 a.m. to 12 p.m., there's a free
11:58:50 shot clinic at the Humane Society of Tampa Bay on Armenia
11:58:56 And free vaccines and microchips.
11:58:59 So those April 6th, 3607 North Armenia Avenue, the
11:59:05 Humane Society of Tampa.
11:59:06 That's it.
11:59:07 Thank you.
11:59:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: Thank you very much.
11:59:08 I am going to just say talking about Cubans, today is the
11:59:12 last time on behalf the chair will player at the tequila in
11:59:21 Ybor City and council today has a meeting at 5:01.
11:59:25 We are going to adjourn to be that in a few second.
11:59:27 If you want to hear some good music, tonight from 7 to 9 at
11:59:32 Along those lines I received a memo here from Kathy Castor's
11:59:36 office, our Congresswoman, saying this Saturday, March
11:59:38 29th, this coming Monday, March 31st, Saturday from
11:59:42 10 to 4 p.m., Saturday are from 10 to 4, and Monday from 9
11:59:46 to 9 at the health center at 4810 north Himes Avenue,
11:59:52 enrollment for the sign-up for the affordable health care.
11:59:56 Anyone who wants to go is certainly welcome to come, from
12:00:01 Monday, from 9 to 9, and this Saturday from 10 to 4.
12:00:06 So these my public announcement.
12:00:08 Anything else to come before this council before we adjourn
12:00:11 to 5:01?
12:00:12 We stand adjourned till 5:01.
12:00:15 Anyone in the audience wants to speak to this council, all
12:00:18 505 of you?
12:00:19 Increasing every week.
12:00:20 I see no one.
12:00:21 We stand adjourned till 5:01.
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